Skirts protests

[Barleymower]

Before we say LGBTQ+ is nothing to do with MIS: We are all in this together.

Agreed. When the rights of one are trampled on, nobody is safe. And believe me, men are skirts is easy pickins for an authoritarian right wing. We have no major lobby, no representation, no politician that specifically promotes our interest.

Simply put, once the transgender community is eliminated, MIS can be pinched out like a bug, and completely forgotten about.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, to the far right wing.... we're all just a bunch of abominable child molesting faggots. They'd just assume shoot you between the eyes and throw you in a shallow grave than to look at you. They have no value for your life or "freedom" anymore than a common cockroach.

Perhaps we as a group should lobby governments on both sides of the pond and request that the wearing of skirts by men should be named in government policy?

[rivegauche]

What is a "conservative" anyway?

In the United Kingdom we a two party system, with other minority parties. The right wing is represented by the Conservatives and the left wing is represented by Labour. Blue and Red respectively. However for the last 28 years the Labour Party has largely relinquished its left wing ideals for the centre ground, centre left or more accurately Right Wing ideals.

This is less a political point and more a point of information. The UK is not really a two-party system. England is. By sheer weight of numbers the 'other' parties that might have huge majorities in their own countries have their views over-ruled. Perhaps the UK is less a two-party state than a one-party state.

[rode_kater]

So, hilariously, I have lost the use of a word that describes my overall outlook on things --- "Don't rock the boat needlessly. But do not hesitate to when there is a valid need to."

I'd call that "centrist". I'm in the "progressive centrist" camp. Since the progressives tend to be more on the left and conservatives more on the right, it means I'm not left enough for the progressive parties, and too progressive for the parties on the right. Fortunately there are some choices left for me.

Perhaps we as a group should lobby governments on both sides of the pond and request that the wearing of skirts by men should be named in government policy?

I dunno. Here (NL) we have constitutional freedom of expression that means the government (should) stay out of what we can and cannot wear. I'd rather keep it that way if possible. If you want to promote a policy, how about the policy "everyone can wear whatever they like"?

[ScotL]

RK, I’m with you. I don’t want government telling me what I can and cannot wear. I truly believe they have better things to do with their time.

[Barleymower]

Here is a little more clarity on why I think the government should be lobbied regarding skirt wearing by men;
There is a document by the government equalities office called Dress codes and sex discrimination –
what you need to know.
Here is the link:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ed-to-know

It provides employers with advice of how they should view dress codes in the work place ie
• Dress codes can be a legitimate part of an employer’s terms and conditions of

employment.
• Dress policies for men and women do not have to be identical, but standards
imposed should be equivalent. Dress codes must not be a source of harassment
by colleagues or customers, for example women being expected to dress in a
provocative manner.
• It is best to avoid gender specific prescriptive requirements, for example the
requirement to wear high heels. Any requirement to wear make-up, skirts, have
manicured nails, certain hairstyles or specific types of hosiery is likely to be
unlawful (see further text on page 3).

I think the document should be expanded to include a further example that provided garments worn by employees are smart then employers should not discriminate against employees who choose to garments not traditionally associated with their gender. For example if a man choose to wear a skirt in the workplace.

[Midas]

What is a "conservative" anyway?

In the United Kingdom we a two party system, with other minority parties. The right wing is represented by the Conservatives and the left wing is represented by Labour. Blue and Red respectively. However for the last 28 years the Labour Party has largely relinquished its left wing ideals for the centre ground, centre left or more accurately Right Wing ideals.

In this context ‘conservative’ has a small c and has nothing to do with politics, as is the case with most worthwhile things in the world.

[Myopic Bookworm]

What is a "conservative" anyway?

In the United Kingdom we a two party system, with other minority parties. The right wing is represented by the Conservatives and the left wing is represented by Labour. Blue and Red respectively. However for the last 28 years the Labour Party has largely relinquished its left wing ideals for the centre ground, centre left or more accurately Right Wing ideals.

In this context ‘conservative’ has a small c and has nothing to do with politics, as is the case with most worthwhile things in the world.

True: many British people who vote socialist are deeply conservative in attitude, and many who vote Conservative are socially quite liberal. (I strongly suspect that many British people approach an election like a sporting event: they are aiming to vote for the winner, rather than for the party they agree with!)