Why do mens kilts have to look so masculine

General discussion of skirt and kilt-based fashion for men, and stuff that goes with skirts and kilts.
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Re: Why do mens kilts have to look so masculine

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I can't really answer your question, I do have a kilt and absolutely love taking my dog for a walk in it (me not the dog!).
I have to confess that when I'm out and about in it I do feel quite masculine which I found strange (especially as I wear it with a slip, don't tell the kilt brigade, they'd hunt me down, lol), I think it must have something to do with all the historical propaganda of Rob Roy and the likes, kilted and living wild amongst the heather (those romantic Victorians were great people but also have a hell of a lot to answer for, lol) something that probably wouldn't have gone down so well if he'd been represented wearing a ballgown :D
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Re: Why do mens kilts have to look so masculine

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The use of a kilt or skirt also depends on the activities te be carried out. When working in the garden I do tend to wear my utility kilt as it will protect modesty while giving the comfort to work or even more than trousers. I have one from a Pakistani outfit, which has the problem of near east inches instead of the UK/US inches (they quickly provided one that did fit). The other is a garden utility kilt from Bläkläder (to bad they don't carry it anymore). The last one has an enviromental aspect to it also, it's made of former PET bottles... thus it's sturdy.
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When King George IV visited Scotland in 1821 he had a meeting with the Clan Chiefs..
On that occasion he wore pink tights as part of his kilt outfit.
Never mind the purists being upset that would have been plain offensive to the Highlanders.
Monday was St Andrews Day and I wore my own version of a kilt, the tights scarlet and ankle boots black.
I don't think I gave the kilt police much thought actually and never saw any anyway,
Ironic to think that it is more widely recognised in America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand Etc than it is here in Scotland.
Perhaps the Tartan Gestapo were on patrol there.
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It's great to see the boundaries of what counts as 'kilt' style being challenged. I have discovered tights, and wear them often with shorts. (They also diminish any potential visual offence of a man in a short skirt!) Women's kilt-skirts tend to be lighter and shorter than traditional men's kilts, and can work quite well with tights. You can challenge any perception of 'femininity' by adding chunky socks and sturdy footwear, and a masculine sweater or jacket. Modern utility kilts now appear in a huge variety of fabrics. Just need to reduce the pleating gradually and progressively. No one will notice, and before you know it anything will count as a kilt he he!

The other way to go is with a 'cargo' or 'utility' skirt. I have a few of these - they look like cargo shorts, but unbifurcated - one in black and a couple in 'army green', with the usual tapes/zips/studs styling. There is nothing intrinsically 'feminine' in those, and they are much lighter and easier to wear casually than a 'kilt' of any type.
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Skaterboy wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:50 am

The other way to go is with a 'cargo' or 'utility' skirt. I have a few of these - they look like cargo shorts, but unbifurcated - one in black and a couple in 'army green', with the usual tapes/zips/studs styling. There is nothing intrinsically 'feminine' in those, and they are much lighter and easier to wear casually than a 'kilt' of any type.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Molecule-Kha ... Swr5Zals~K
Good stuff, Skaterboy. And I really like your bit at the end about the utility skirts. The link is fascinating and they are called 'women's skirts' (that again!). Fun though, great experimental clothing fashion styles for all of us. And I do mean all of us. :roll: :lol: :D
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Ok Guys so today I will don a red skirt, navy jersey, tights and tan boots.
The outfit is neither masculine or feminine.
It is simply my choice, the rest is of no importance, it just does not matter.
The kilt like any other garment is totally subject to the whims of fashion,
Some of it's previous iterations included a plethora of lace accessories that might be considered en femme by some of our self appointed purists.
Clothes do not have gender.
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Skaterboy wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:50 am
The other way to go is with a 'cargo' or 'utility' skirt. I have a few of these - they look like cargo shorts, but unbifurcated - one in black and a couple in 'army green', with the usual tapes/zips/studs styling. There is nothing intrinsically 'feminine' in those, and they are much lighter and easier to wear casually than a 'kilt' of any type.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Molecule-Kha ... Swr5Zals~K
I'm sorry, but that is one ugly skirt (in my humble opinion).... it looks like a dufflebag standing upright...

Sorry... I don't want to offend anyone... but... not for me.
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STEVIE wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:20 pm
Hillaryskirt,
I must confess that I don't recall seeing this thread before.
Oddly, the answer lies in its very title.
I would advocate great caution in asking that question.
The Kilt Police would certainly take an unhealthy interest in the answer.
Steve.
Thanks, Steve. I've only just seen this, 5 months late to the party. I blame the pandemic. :)
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I don't own any actual kilts. However, a fair number of my skirts do have what I would call a kilt like vibe. One is an A-Line wool skirt in a broad, diagonal plaid, (not tartan) Another is also wool, but a simple wrap skirt in 3, horizontal bands, Black/Red/Black. A third is cotton, (I think) moderately heavy, in sort of an army green, and has several bands of pleats. I chose them because they didn't look particularly feminine, but to me, they are quite obviously not kilts. Doesn't seem to matter, they have been called kilts much more often than skirts. Indeed, more than once, I have been "corrected" when I described them as skirts.
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Re: Why do mens kilts have to look so masculine

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I think its because they are a kilt by definition almost.
They're not my personal choice - but then that's why there are skirts.....
I have never worn a kilt out - I have tried one on but it was very heavy and didn't really sort of sit on me well. It was way heavier than my usual skirts. I prefer a skirt - and I have worn a skirt version of a kilt out a lot - I like plaid/ tweed check pattern skirts - but then they are lighter to wear and are nicely lined and fitted which is more my style.

I think the very reason that kilts are more blokey is because they are supposed to be...
There's a skirt style out there to suit everyone's taste I'm sure!

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Re: Why do mens kilts have to look so masculine

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nzfreestyler wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:58 am
I think the very reason that kilts are more blokey is because they are supposed to be...
There's a skirt style out there to suit everyone's taste I'm sure!
Absolutely NZ and it is all based on a myth constructed by some very astute Scottish politicians and businessmen.
To paraphrase, a skirts a skirt for aw' that.
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