Ties and skirts/kilts

[skirtingtoday]

I almost never wear a tie nowadays - certainly not in the office or going to client meetings (the clients too generally have shirts with top button undone and no tie).

When I do wear one, it is a matching tartan tie to my kilt and with (usually) a black shirt. At other times (with the kilt), I wear a ghillie shirt with a dark jacket.

Or a black tie at a funeral.

[rick401r]

During my years as a sales rep I had to wear a tie daily. I noticed that I was treated differently when so attired. Folks called me sir and most seemed more polite and friendly towards me. That said, I have not worn a tie more than 2-3 times in the last few years and can't tie one properly without practice.
If anyone needs a tie I have about hundred hanging in my closet.

[crfriend]

Swimming trunks? Don't keep you warm, don't keep you dry and generally look dreadful too.

That does win the contest for "moist pointless garment".

At least a tie can add a dash of colour to an outfit.

Indeed, and there is nothing saying that the things have to be worn so tight that they're uncomfortable. If you find them uncomfortable, question whether you have a shirt with the right neck size; if you're choking, that's likely the cause not the necktie.

(Take this one as an example.)

Wow. That burns the eyes, and certainly would be unforgettable.

[Taj]

Ties are symbolic. That is their functionality. Do I like them or the custom that requires them. Yes and no. A tie is a symbol of respect for the business or social situation one is attending to. I may not have a lot of respect for some individuals in some situations I may encounter, but I can communicate respect for the process by dressing appropriately. It is important to me to present myself in the best light possible.

[skirtyscot]

Ties - who needs them? I don't like them, though once mine is on I generally don't think about it much. I'd happily never wear one again.

[Big and Bashful]

I can't think of a more pointless garment.

Swimming trunks? Don't keep you warm, don't keep you dry and generally look dreadful too.

At least a tie can add a dash of colour to an outfit.

Like Carl, I have a couple cravats that I use to brighten things up, mine came from the Pocket Watch and Waistcoat Company. They were happy to make cravats from any of the materials they have, some of which are VERY loud (Take this one as an example.)

Have fun,


Ian.

Swimming trunks have their uses, not getting locked up when going for a paddle sort of justifies their existence! Much as I would prefer it if swimming and beach related cavorting in the nuddy was legal and normal, unfortunately the influence of the prude has decreed that the fact that we are animals and have animal bits needs to be hidden from view, hence swimming trunks have got a job for life!

[JohnH]

You have to remember that for the more staid male population the tie is probably the only item of clothing with any colour in it - black shoes, black socks, black trousers, black jacket, white shirt.

That is their fault they wear such drab clothing. I don't feel sorry for them since it is their choice. It is a coincidence that DRAB - dressed as boy - is just that. Why is it for animals the male is more flamboyant - e.g. cardinals, ducks, peacocks, and lions than the female counterpart, yet for Western apparel men really have dismal drab clothing and grooming compared to women?

John

[skirtilator]

Ties are symbolic. That is their functionality. Do I like them or the custom that requires them. Yes and no. A tie is a symbol of respect for the business or social situation one is attending to. I may not have a lot of respect for some individuals in some situations I may encounter, but I can communicate respect for the process by dressing appropriately. It is important to me to present myself in the best light possible.

Ties are useless. They are a symbol of foolishness, cuz you look foolish in them and who demands you to look like a fool has no respect for you and therefore deserves no respect. Ähm, imagination is not a function. You can say that a person makes a garment but the reverse order is simply not true. It starts in the military and goes on in sports, if you hail the uniform rather than the actually person, it is a kinda unrealistic approach, lad.

[Uncle Al]

<snip>
If anyone needs a tie I have about hundred hanging in my closet.

You may remember a gentleman named Bob who was a musician in the
Seattle, Washington area. His last name escapes me now.........ANYWAY,
he had quite a few ties and he made a skirt out of them and he wore that
skirt to several gigs he performed at.

OK - - I remembered his name ......... Bob Pettingill(sp), may he R.I.P.
He was a valued contributor here and at Tom's Cafe' way back in the
beginning. I'm sure Carl remembers him and his "Tie-Built" Skirt

Uncle Al

[Tor]

Indeed, and there is nothing saying that the things have to be worn so tight that they're uncomfortable. If you find them uncomfortable, question whether you have a shirt with the right neck size; if you're choking, that's likely the cause not the necktie.

Hmmm... I doubt the lines between "indecently loose" and "dangerously tight" overlap at all for me. If I can't easily get eight fingers between collar and neck with an air gap between each finger and my neck the garment is dangerously tight - the more formal the occasion, the more dangerous (of ruining the formality of the occasion, at least, if plainly not of actual strangulation). And yes, on the rare occasion I have had a scarf about my neck I do have to do this with reasonable frequency to let my reflexes settle down and avoid making a mess.

[MrUtopia]

This site provides some interesting history for the tie of today.

http://www.tie-a-tie.net/blog/the-evolu ... e-necktie/

I agree that there is no real purpose for a tie today except as part of the uniform pushed upon business men.

Peter

[MrUtopia]

Here are some examples I found.

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Necktie2.jpg

necktie3.jpg

[MrUtopia]

and one for us.

necktie4.jpg

[howardh]

I can't think of a more pointless garment.

Swimming trunks? Don't keep you warm, don't keep you dry and generally look dreadful too.

At least a tie can add a dash of colour to an outfit.

Like Carl, I have a couple cravats that I use to brighten things up, mine came from the Pocket Watch and Waistcoat Company. They were happy to make cravats from any of the materials they have, some of which are VERY loud (Take this one as an example.)

Have fun,


Ian.

Swimming trunks have their uses, not getting locked up when going for a paddle sort of justifies their existence! Much as I would prefer it if swimming and beach related cavorting in the nuddy was legal and normal, unfortunately the influence of the prude has decreed that the fact that we are animals and have animal bits needs to be hidden from view, hence swimming trunks have got a job for life!

Bit OT but - You need to go to Spain more, where it is NOT an offence to be au natural on any beach! Curtosy means beaches adjacent to heavily built-up areas are not used for nude bathing (curtosy - not the law) but everywhere else you go as you want. Britain could learn a lesson from that!

[howardh]

Here are some examples I found.

necktie3.jpg

Wow - second from left - gorgeous lady! Drop the tie though - but sensational tights. I'm getting rather hot now...time for breakfast!