Stu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:54 pm
True, there is no law - but there doesn't need to be a law. All they need to do is:
Who is "they" in this sentence?
What you seem to be describing is a form of systemic misandry: where individuals as a rule don't have a problem with men wearing skirts, but that society as a whole makes it a problem. As with racism, the reactions vary between "it's not a/my problem" to "we need to reform society". There's no silver bullet here. That said:
Stu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:54 pm
1. Apply intense social pressure to make skirt-wearing by males a taboo, and they achieve that by conflating it with femininity, or transsexualism etc. The media supports this line. Males who do wear them are either ostracised or presented as oddballs.
While I'm sure there exist people that do this, I don't believe they amount to any significant group. Most of what we see is, in my opinion, ignorance. Most people have just never thought about it. That's where we make the difference: my making it visible (and the press does this too) we make people think about it and most will conclude that they just don't care (as long as it's not their partner, of course).
(Though this probably varies a lot across the world).
Stu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:54 pm
2. Lack of availability. Mainstream suppliers stock zero male skirts. They do not market them for men or boys or depict men or boys wearing them. Males generally then have to source them from women's suppliers, effectively forcing them to cross-dress and then we are back to Problem 1.
Again, I think this is ignorance/just not thinking about it. Would they sell more skirts by marketing them to males? That's the only consideration for most stores. As for calling it cross-dressing, my response would be: they're not women's clothes, they're my clothes, I bought them. Whether men wearing skirts while not trying to look like women is actually cross-dressing is a debatable point.
I find it interesting to contrast this with make up/perfume. The acceptance for this has been growing for years, and now the ads to male/female perfumes are about 50% here. Although, possibly they don't call them perfumes any more, the ads have become so bizarre it's not clear what they're selling till the end.
Stu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:54 pm
Who needs a law?
To be honest, I think feminists had an easier job
because there were laws against it. That makes it much easier to make it a political point.
But I do agree that there's a definite men's rights angle here, though hard to pin down.