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Hi Phatback,

The "rules" for menswear have and always will, be decided by society and social pressure.
Fortunately, there will always be the upstarts and rebels who take delight in breaking them.
Steve.

phathack wrote: ↑Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:17 am Seems to me a brief would be a no inseam garment.
But is that still Shorts?

If it has any join at the crotch, yes!
Or panties, knickers, briefs or any other name you care to mention.
It is definitely not a skirt!
Steve.

The in seam measurement is the distance from the crotch to the bottom of the shorts or pants/trousers. Ah but my learned friend, we have the accepted definition as stated above. The key word is "crotch", not the measurement. I present this as corroboratory evidence evidence.jpg Safe to sa...

Mouse is correct. Zero inseam makes it a skirt. I beg to differ. The in seam measurement is the distance from the crotch to the bottom of the shorts or pants/trousers. Even at 0 there is still a crotch so there is bifurcation. By that token how can it possibly be a skirt? I got to say that my origi...

Mouse wrote: ↑Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:58 pm If you get to the stage of the inseam being 0, do you not just get a very short skirt?

Nope Mouse that's underwear, such as some girls seem to think are shorts these days.
Max inseam I'll wear is 2", my motto, if you've got it, flaunt it!
Steve.

I'm pretty much at the point where I don't care what you call it or who it's intended for. If I like it and it fits, I'm wearing it. Exactly Modoc, otherwise stick to male drab or spend a fortune on the "genderless" fashion fad. Don't worry though, a new revolution in fashion will be alon...

Two articles 4 years apart, 2021-2025. From 2021, the celebs in their skirts, the great influencers who'd set MIS solidly into mainstream fashion. Don't seem to hear too much from them these days. Bang up to date 2025, ah let's call it genderless fashion, now there's a buzzword if ever there was one...

Men have a choice either grow a beard because at least women cant do that or they can go the other way and wear the same clothes as women and say "it doesn't worry me" Or some of us just say, what the heck and do both. Once upon a time, I smoked a pipe as well, that truly messed with some...

Uncle Al wrote: ↑Wed Oct 08, 2025 7:51 am Let's hope that someone comes forward. We don't want to lose another supplier of male fashion freedom.

Al, since the original post is 5 years old, I think that horse has bolted.
Steve

There is another possibility. The Madras Kilt. Madras is a kind of plaid. The garment seems to have been originally marketed towards women. A short wrap skirt, the hem just above the knee. Apron in front, pleats in the rear. I believe that it wrapped the opposite direction from a man's kilt. There ...

The skirt that the guys is wearing does look kilt like.. I don't see that it would draw any negative attention. I'd not like to be working a packed train of rowdy sports fans in that skirt. Negative and positive, the attention would be considerable. The question remains -- "Will any male emplo...

As men we need to do the same and indulge in all articles of women’s fashion and stop worrying about “do I appear masculine enough?”. That kind of thinking will keep us confined to the ManBox forever with no hope of ever escaping. The first thing that needs to change is that “there is nothing wrong...

Kilts are great starter skirts! Problem being it ends there too in the vast majority of cases. Even if men mostly stay with utility kilts, I'm okay with that. It's a massive improvement! And once you are away from the "traditional kilt" with all the rules associated, modifications in all ...

First off, while we may be able to allow for and even identify with his motives, that is not the point. The fact is that there are people out there who will act first and think after, I desist from "shoot first" as it's a UK issue so less likely. Self appointed vigilantes and preservers of...

I wish you luck with that Ray and "I mean that most sincerely" (Hughie Green, sleaze ball extraordinaire) Those dudes were probably of some remote Scots heritage and blissfully unaware of the ancestors who were heaping curses on their heads. There is an awful lot of scope for fun with shot...