Any Japanese Speakers?

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Any Japanese Speakers?

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Are there any Japanese speakers on here? If so, I have a question:

The Japanese written form of Tokyo is 東京. So why is Kyoto written 京都 rather than 京東?

Any ideas?
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I will give it a go. I am not a speaker of Japanese but am trying to learn to read and write Kanji.
Unlike Hiragana and Katakana, Kanji (漢字) is not a phonetic system and each character can have a different meaning and sound depending on the combination where it is used.
In both cases 京 means capital and is pronounced (roughly kyo).
東 means east and sounds similar to as it is used in Tokyo (roughly toe) but used by itself or other situations it is pronounced very differently.
都 means metropolis and in this combination for Kyoto is a more abrieviated sound (roughly toh) and used by itself or in other combinations it can sound like (too) or (miyako).
Kanji is a Chinese derived system with a long and complex history which I find a bit overwhelming.
Your example 京東 means Jingdong, the name of a large Chinese supply company.

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Thanks for that explanation. I had assumed the syllable To in Tokyo was the same as in Kyoto. That makes sense, now.

Learning Kanji sounds like a nightmare!
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Stu wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:35 pm Learning Kanji sounds like a nightmare!
Certainly a challenge.
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I took classes in Japanese 15 years ago for half a year and recently picked it up on duolingo again and I was wondering the same thing so thank you denimini for the explanation. :)
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