Kilting Diversity
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:09 am
Instead of a single design, kilting seems to have diversified into a group of similar designs.
Evolution of Scottish kilts.
Irish and Scottish kilts contrasted.
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Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:17 am
Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:27 am
Hi Grok
There are evolving trends and fashions in all clothing and kilts are no exception.
The fabrics from which a kilt can be produced in have altered over the years too.
Not just plaids and tartan but leather, cotton and silk to name but a few.
As a Scot I view this as a wholly desirable and perfectly positive set of circumstances.
However, it also serves as a reminder of the absurd notion that "The Kilt" as we know it is so
extremely steeped in the history and heritage of Scotland as a nation in it's own right.
Steve,
There are evolving trends and fashions in all clothing and kilts are no exception.
The fabrics from which a kilt can be produced in have altered over the years too.
Not just plaids and tartan but leather, cotton and silk to name but a few.
As a Scot I view this as a wholly desirable and perfectly positive set of circumstances.
However, it also serves as a reminder of the absurd notion that "The Kilt" as we know it is so
extremely steeped in the history and heritage of Scotland as a nation in it's own right.
Steve,
Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:14 pm
Thanks for the information, Grok 
Interesting to have as a reference for Irish & Scottish, historically worn, men's wear
Uncle Al
Interesting to have as a reference for Irish & Scottish, historically worn, men's wear
Uncle Al
Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:50 pm
"Ya - you donna have to be Scottish to wear de kilt - you can also be Irish - - - or anyone you wanna be"
Interesting about the number of tartan or kilt registrations -
Years ago when I first wore the generic Red Stewart (Prince Charlie tartan) there were 452 recognized tartans -
Now in contrasted it is stated:
Scottish tartans are a representation of a Scottish clan, and each Scottish family has their own tartan, distinguished by their surname. There are over 25,000 registered Scottish tartans.
This is possible just by changing one thread in the tartan design -
So some will not be a noticeable change at all -
Reading both articles - one can put to rest all the formalities of wearing the kilt except in the real formal sense -
It is still not in good taste to be a beau brummel wearing a sloppy kilt at an event of importance:
https://www.esquire.com/style/mens-fash ... sculinity/
Beau Brummel was not a kilt wearer - but an example of fashion out of place/time.
Interesting about the number of tartan or kilt registrations -
Years ago when I first wore the generic Red Stewart (Prince Charlie tartan) there were 452 recognized tartans -
Now in contrasted it is stated:
Scottish tartans are a representation of a Scottish clan, and each Scottish family has their own tartan, distinguished by their surname. There are over 25,000 registered Scottish tartans.
This is possible just by changing one thread in the tartan design -
So some will not be a noticeable change at all -
Reading both articles - one can put to rest all the formalities of wearing the kilt except in the real formal sense -
It is still not in good taste to be a beau brummel wearing a sloppy kilt at an event of importance:
https://www.esquire.com/style/mens-fash ... sculinity/
Beau Brummel was not a kilt wearer - but an example of fashion out of place/time.
Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:12 pm
Screw Beau Brummel and the dog he rode in on. He's one of the reasons that men's fashion today is as bland and unimaginative as it is. He deserves to be reviled by all of manhood today.r.m.anderson wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:50 pmBeau Brummel was not a kilt wearer - but an example of fashion out of place/time.
"Beau Brummel is alive and well and living in Paris", as the saying goes. This issue with that is that he'll be so bland that you'll never find him because he blends into the woodwork.
Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:02 am
I am so glad I joined this forum ...Originally I came on just for kilting . I must own up to the fact that I saw nothing in skirts or dresses to be perfectly honest . In recent times though I have witnessed some compelling , well reasoned and common sense ideas why skirts are equally or dare I say more diverse and better than kilts .. I also suggest that the word 'skirt' is a very encompassing description and actually captures the literal type of clothing it is . Many dictionaries describe kilts as 'a short pleated skirt worn by men ' .
So , whether it be a skirt , dress , shirt dress , tunic , pinafore , overkilt,,any other garment of similar style or indeed kilt I will be very open minded to how the forum member comments on ... It's somehow become an epiphany for me ... It's great ..
So , whether it be a skirt , dress , shirt dress , tunic , pinafore , overkilt,,any other garment of similar style or indeed kilt I will be very open minded to how the forum member comments on ... It's somehow become an epiphany for me ... It's great ..
Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:52 pm
For those that don't like the word "skirt" when talking about a man in such a garment can use the term "MUG". Stands for "Men's Unbifurcated Garment". I don't have any issue with the term "skirt" when I wear one. A kilt is an unbifercated garment, so is a skirt. They are one and the same. It is just society has associated the term "skirt" with women. MUG breaks away from that association.
Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:01 pm
Sadly, in British English, one meaning of the word mug (noun), is a stupid or gullible person.Pleats wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:52 pm For those that don't like the word "skirt" when talking about a man in such a garment can use the term "MUG". Stands for "Men's Unbifurcated Garment". I don't have any issue with the term "skirt" when I wear one. A kilt is an unbifurcated garment, so is a skirt. They are one and the same. It is just society has associated the term "skirt" with women. MUG breaks away from that association.
As a verb, one meaning of mug, is to attack and rob someone in a public place.
Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:40 am
When a person has an open mind all kinds of worthwhile ideas get in. Your testimonial is encouraging and lets all of us know that the effort to communicate is worthwhile.Tazzmac wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:02 am I am so glad I joined this forum ...Originally I came on just for kilting . I must own up to the fact that I saw nothing in skirts or dresses to be perfectly honest . In recent times though I have witnessed some compelling , well reasoned and common sense ideas why skirts are equally or dare I say more diverse and better than kilts .. I also suggest that the word 'skirt' is a very encompassing description and actually captures the literal type of clothing it is . Many dictionaries describe kilts as 'a short pleated skirt worn by men ' .
So , whether it be a skirt , dress , shirt dress , tunic , pinafore , overkilt,,any other garment of similar style or indeed kilt I will be very open minded to how the forum member comments on ... It's somehow become an epiphany for me ... It's great ..
Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:02 pm
Kilts are a bit of a gateway drug for easing into skirting. A guy in a kilt is merely eccentric, but a guy in a skirt begs all sorts of questions. It takes a lot of self-confidence to make that leap! I do like to wear kilts but but skirts are so much easier and can be less fussy. A kilt is to a skirt as a dirndl is to a dress...it's a costume and it's a bit fussy (measurements, straps, etc) and it stands out.Tazzmac wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:02 am I am so glad I joined this forum ...Originally I came on just for kilting . I must own up to the fact that I saw nothing in skirts or dresses to be perfectly honest . In recent times though I have witnessed some compelling , well reasoned and common sense ideas why skirts are equally or dare I say more diverse and better than kilts.
Re: Kilting Diversity
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:55 am
A kilt was my introduction to public skirt skirt-wearing. I wore it two times a week apart and bought another because I liked it so much, though I never wore the second; I haven't worn either since the first two weeks, coming up on 4 years now. I much prefer the ease and simplicity of the skirts and an occasional dress.FLbreezy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:02 pmKilts are a bit of a gateway drug for easing into skirting. A guy in a kilt is merely eccentric, but a guy in a skirt begs all sorts of questions. It takes a lot of self-confidence to make that leap! I do like to wear kilts but but skirts are so much easier and can be less fussy. A kilt is to a skirt as a dirndl is to a dress...it's a costume and it's a bit fussy (measurements, straps, etc) and it stands out.