Can men in skirts look sexy? Is this allowed?

Discussion of fashion elements and looks that are traditionally considered somewhat "femme" but are presented in a masculine context. This is NOT about transvestism or crossdressing.
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To all the nice people who've asked about my school: this quarter I'm taking Journalism, Technical Writing, and (thank God!) some computer courses. I'll catch you up more in the Personal Stories section, but I feel embarrassed talking off-topic here. (sorry)

Back to Chris's subject:
Do women generally keep their tights a shade lighter than their outfit?
Generally if the entire outfit is black then black tights are fine, but if not then flesh-toned is preferred. The point is usually that we don't want our tights to be the first thing to draw the eye.

... which leads me to your next point...
As an example of how women can dress to look HOT - I give you . . . . patterned tights. (I have bought one amazing pair!). See here:
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I think they will be great with boots.
...and here's the exception which proves the much greater rule -- DO WHAT FEELS FABULOUS TO YOU!!! :D

I agree that with those boots and a nice fingertip length skirt, those tights will be fantastic. They will draw the eye to your legs, and be a real feature. The thing is, you have to be BALANCED. That means, with that much pattern on your legs you have to be careful what you wear for a top. Pick a solid shirt that pulls one of the colors from the tights and wear that tucked in. You're going for sexy, right? Be bold enough to draw the eye upwards as well. Show off those broad shoulders by wearing a nice yoked shirt in a sensual rayon or silk. Layer it all up with that duster jacket I've heard rumors of and you'll be the talk of the town!

Oooooo, that and some really sexy cologne... Just the hint of a whiff... I feel my knees turning to jelly...
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Shoot...go with all Lincoln Green and accessorise with a long bow, quiver, ands a feather in your hat .....Robin Hood! :P
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Generally if the entire outfit is black then black tights are fine, but if not then flesh-toned is preferred. The point is usually that we don't want our tights to be the first thing to draw the eye.
In the UK, a lot of women have been wearing black tights/leggings etc. with denim skirts for the last year or two. And by what I've seen so far (everyone put on their boots and tights last week as the weather turned colder) this winter will be mostly black hosiery for everyday wear.
Personally I think it goes with most things - either with a contrasting skirt (such as light blue denim) - or with a matching (black) skirt. In fact I learned something in the supermarket today. I saw two women - seperately - who were both wearing black tights or leggings with black skirts. They both looked great, but one had about 50 denier black tights on with a slight sheen - while the other was completely opaque and matt. Both were different - both were great.

Anyhow, I digress. What I meant to say was that in the UK, black tights/leggings are very much the norm at the moment.
I agree that with those boots and a nice fingertip length skirt, those tights will be fantastic. They will draw the eye to your legs, and be a real feature. The thing is, you have to be BALANCED. That means, with that much pattern on your legs you have to be careful what you wear for a top. Pick a solid shirt that pulls one of the colors from the tights and wear that tucked in. You're going for sexy, right? Be bold enough to draw the eye upwards as well. Show off those broad shoulders by wearing a nice yoked shirt in a sensual rayon or silk. Layer it all up with that duster jacket I've heard rumors of and you'll be the talk of the town!
Very good - practical - fashion advice EmeraldWitch - so thank you very much for that. It is mostly obvious when I read it, of course, but I need to have those simple tips hammered into my skull.

* I will wear those patterned tights with a plain dark shirt. (I always wear shirts tucked in - who doesn't?). But I don't own a shirt to match those tights. This is a perennial problem with me - matching stuff up to create a co-ordinated look. I own black shirts, white shirts, yellow shirts, orange shirts, blue shirts etc. - but nothing that will blend with those tights. I may have to buy something new . . . . (wallet runs out of the room - screaming . . )
* I am not just going for sexy. I am going for . . sensational! 8)
* I haven't got broad shoulders. Quite the opposite - as I am very slim.
* I don't own any rayon or silk shirts. Everything is cotton. I love cotton.
* I can't afford a Duster jacket. I am thinking of trying a long cloak instead. That would be cheaper and could still look good with a short skirt. I will see what I can find on eBay. Otherwise, all I have is a normal length, boring raincoat.

I've got some good white tights as well that I haven't worn yet. They are thick ribbed woollen winter ones. I thought white would look good with brown boots, brown skirt and white shirt - but I will have to try it on and see what it looks like.
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In the UK, a lot of women have been wearing black tights/leggings etc. with denim skirts for the last year or two. And by what I've seen so far (everyone put on their boots and tights last week as the weather turned colder) this winter will be mostly black hosiery for everyday wear.
Black opaque tights (matte) with a black calf-length skirt was my first "out and about" rig. Paired with a contrasting top (go ahead and sneer about the word) the look can actually be quite dramatic. Monochrome black from the waist down with reds and whites atop works quite well (at least for me). It was only later on that I branched out and started working on other "looks". Really, you need to experiment with various outfits (nuts, another "forbidden word") to see how they work in context, and adjust your look so it all pulls together.

ChristopherJ -- Your latest avatar shows you're working on that -- given the lightness of the "urban camo" top bits, I'd be tempted to go for lighter legwear; I think it'd balance better. Hot white legwear can be problematic -- it's just too bright. You might want to consider ivory, off-white, or even pale yellow.
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As regards the colour of legwear

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As regards the colour of legwear, I have developed a rule of thumb that works well for me:

First, let me define the word "value". In the sense of color, the 'value' of a colour is what we might call the "grey scale" of that color. THus Red is very 'dark' in value, while a pastel may be very light in 'value.'

Now, to my rule of thumb: I try for a uniform TREND OF VALUE in the legs. If I have a dark skirt, and I intend to wear light-colored shoes (I have some camel-coloured shoes that I like) then I will wear legwear that is mid-way between the VALUE of those items.

By contrast, it would be a mistake (a violation of my rule of thumb) to wear a very light-value legwear between that skirt and those shoes.

Similarly, a light skirt with dark shoes may call for mid-value legwear. A dark skirt with dark shoes suggests dark-value legwear.

Etc.


And, I hasten to append: This is only a rule of thumb, a baseline from which to deviate. Certainly there are variations that work well, but I have found this a useful guideline for getting started.

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ChristopherJ -- Your latest avatar shows you're working on that -- given the lightness of the "urban camo" top bits, I'd be tempted to go for lighter legwear; I think it'd balance better. Hot white legwear can be problematic -- it's just too bright. You might want to consider ivory, off-white, or even pale yellow.
That's really good advice crfriend - thank you. Most of my hosiery (tights or leggings) are dark - either black, grey or navy blue. I will try out some other colours.

The white wool ribbed tights that I have are not brilliant white - more of an off white. Anyhow, as I would only wear them with boots, not much would be on display - just a few inches from boot top to skirt hem.
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That's really good advice crfriend - thank you.
You're quite welcome. Of course, free advice being worth what you paid for it... ;)

ChrisM brought up some very good ideas, and his advice gave me the delightful pleasure of reaching for my Fritz Lang hat to fully grok the impact. Well done, Chris!
Most of my hosiery (tights or leggings) are dark - either black, grey or navy blue. I will try out some other colours.
As are mine -- aside from black, navy blue, and ivory the selection of colours on these shores is rather paltry. Although I do have a couple in brown.
The white wool ribbed tights that I have are not brilliant white - more of an off white. Anyhow, as I would only wear them with boots, not much would be on display - just a few inches from boot top to skirt hem.
I don't know about that -- those may be something you might want to "put on display" for the sake of the texturing; even with the trainers they might look good with a lighter coloured plain skirt. I don't think they'd go with camo (I suspect it'd be a bit on the "busy" side with the camo print and texture of the legwear), but one never knows until one tries and sees the result.
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I don't know about that -- those may be something you might want to "put on display" for the sake of the texturing; even with the trainers they might look good with a lighter coloured plain skirt. I don't think they'd go with camo (I suspect it'd be a bit on the "busy" side with the camo print and texture of the legwear), but one never knows until one tries and sees the result.
I don't think I'd wear the white tights with trainers. I think it would look a bit odd - although the ribbing does look good, so it makes sense to show it off.
I agree with you that it could look 'busy' with a camo skirt - but I've got 4 different camo skirts. One pink, one bluey (in my avatar), and two normal brown/green army sort of camo. I think the white tights could look good with brown boots and the army type camo skirts. I will just have to experiment.

In the meantime I am suffering from a big disappointment as I wanted to buy a new pair of boots - from NEXT - I put the money aside and went to get them - and they are sold out! Buggrit. It's really hard to get womens' boots in UK size 9 (EU 43) and so I was delighted to find them. I am now very disappointed.

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ChristopherJ wrote:It's really hard to get womens' boots in UK size 9 (EU 43) and so I was delighted to find them. I am now very disappointed.
I found a great pair of boots in Evans yesterday. Black, just below the knee with a flat sole, low heal and enough cushioning that I could wear them all day...

...except that they stop at size 9 and don't actually stock anything above size 7 in my local branch. I'm a size 11 :(

I am really struggling to find any men's boots longer than ankle length unless I buy a pair of cowboy boots (and even they are not easily available these days) or some huge garish goth monstrosity from New Rock. Anyone got any ideas?
ChristopherJ wrote:I think I deserve some ice cream . . . :wink:
Mind if I join you? I can feel a need to consume a tub of Ben and Jerry's Cherry Garcia coming on.

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Good thread!

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Hey, I definitely wear skirts to look and feel sensual and sexy. I'm sure women do too, and if they see us that way when we're wearing a skirt, then so much the better.

As most of you know, I like to wear pantyhose and heels with my skirts too. All of them are short, and I always look forward to the days when I can wear one of them.

Sometimes, I'll go extra sensual & sexy, for special events like the Folsom Street Fair, Halloween in the Castro, and so forth. These are all crazy events in San Francisco, CA - USA. A few years ago, I wore stockings and garters under my black leather miniskirt. It felt great, and I got lots of compliments from both genders. Have a look at the picture.

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John wrote:Have a look at the picture.
I did :shock: :shock: :shock: and I have to say you're a braver man than I :D

Somehow I don't see that catching on for everyday wear any time soon...

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Stockings and suspenders ?

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Personally, I would have had the hem of the skirt overlapping the top of the stockings;
and I would have looked for shoes [or preferably boots..] with heels of an inch (2.54cm..) or less..

but that's just my tastes...

:shock:

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All,

Yes, it did take some bravery to wear that outfit. I've done so only for special events in the City (San Francisco, CA - USA), and I agree that it's definitely not everyday wear.

The picture was self-taken with a 10 second delay, and as you observed, the skirt is riding higher than desired. Upon sitting, standing and walking, the hem falls lower than what you see here. There's still a gap of bare leg between the stockings and the hemline, and in my opinion that's what makes it such a good look for Halloween.

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I like the skirt, but I don't like the stockings, suspenders and shoes. That's just my opinion. I want to develop a style that suits me as a man and so I would rather not simply wear a whole outfit that could be exactly what a woman might wear. Nevertheless, it is a great "fun" party outfit etc. - but, as a few others have mentioned, definitely not one for wearing to the supermarket!
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Mini, stockings, and high heels...

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I read in a newspaper today (Sunday papers, in the fashion pages..), that this look was introduced by prostitutes in Vienna, in the late 19th century !
:lol:

If so, that would make it great for wearing to a party or fancy dress ball -
going dressed as a prostitute - I like that !! and would consider it for those occasions..
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