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Re: A woman taking over the suit....
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:40 am
by STEVIE
Barleymower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 18, 2025 7:11 am
They are playing with a loaded dice.
If that's true BM, it was men who loaded the dice against men, we only have ourselves to blame.
We seem to be able to come up with all manner of reasons why we can't have fashion freedom.
This thread, and its content is a perfect example.
If men choose, we have the power to realign the dice.
Difficult yes, even painful at times, but worth it in the end, isn't it?
Sepchugang wrote: ↑Thu Dec 18, 2025 8:12 am
it is people like her husband who promulgate the belief that men like us who wear skirts out of choice are wearing "women's clothing" - hence the hypocrisy.
Apologies for missing the humour Sepchugang. However, we have another irony, many men find a woman so attired very attractive indeed.
It's perfectly possible that her husband is one, I wonder what his off duty fashion foibles are, hypocrisy indeed!
Steve.
PS Mouse just proved my point!
Re: A woman taking over the suit....
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:37 pm
by Barleymower
STEVIE wrote: ↑Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:40 am
Barleymower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 18, 2025 7:11 am
They are playing with a loaded dice.
If that's true BM, it was men who loaded the dice against men, we only have ourselves to blame.
We seem to be able to come up with all manner of reasons why we can't have fashion freedom.
This thread, and its content is a perfect example.
If men choose, we have the power to realign the dice.
Difficult yes, even painful at times, but worth it in the end, isn't it?
Stevie you reply is built around the notion that men have caused the situation we find themselves in. Men were placed in this situation with the women.
We are all just adhereing to the programming. It is no mistake that we behave the way we do. We do it because that's we are told to do. Women were handed the loaded dice and it can just as easily be taken away.
We all (men and women) need to wake up and see that we are being made fools of.
Re: A woman taking over the suit....
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:54 pm
by crfriend
Barleymower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:37 pmStevie you reply is built around the notion that men have caused the situation we find themselves in. Men were placed in this situation with the women.
And the women escaped the situation because women have historically been allowed greater latitude in behaviour and attire. The cards remained stacked against men and the dice remain loaded.
However, even loaded dice do not always come up precisely the way they're loaded; some randomness always remains. Or, an alternative in this case, if the dice are loaded to favour rolling snake-eyes instead of boxcars, then rewrite the rules to make snake-eyes count more than boxcars. It can be a matter of interpretation, and if we can get everyone to agree to the new rules, then the loaded dice no longer make as much of a difference. Women have done this time and time within the bargaining complex that is society and have essentially enslaved men by so doing -- and this is a battle that cannot be won by violence, it takes wit, determination, deceit, and perseverance -- most of which are not really male traits any longer.
Re: A woman taking over the suit....
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:29 pm
by Barleymower
crfriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:54 pm
Barleymower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:37 pmStevie you reply is built around the notion that men have caused the situation we find themselves in. Men were placed in this situation with the women.
And the women escaped the situation because women have historically been allowed greater latitude in behaviour and attire. The cards remained stacked against men and the dice remain loaded.
However, even loaded dice do not always come up precisely the way they're loaded; some randomness always remains. Or, an alternative in this case, if the dice are loaded to favour rolling snake-eyes instead of boxcars, then rewrite the rules to make snake-eyes count more than boxcars. It can be a matter of interpretation, and if we can get everyone to agree to the new rules, then the loaded dice no longer make as much of a difference. Women have done this time and time within the bargaining complex that is society and have essentially enslaved men by so doing -- and this is a battle that cannot be won by violence, it takes wit, determination, deceit, and perseverance -- most of which are not really male traits any longer.
Carl, you may or may not be correct. It's hard to tell. Like a lobster waiting to be plunged into a saucepan of nice warm salty water, it probably has no idea if the hotel will turn a profit this year. Either way, life has a habit of righting itself and nothing lasts very long.
I don't blame our women folk neither will I just give up.
Re: A woman taking over the suit....
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:13 pm
by crfriend
Barleymower wrote: ↑Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:29 pmCarl, you may or may not be correct. It's hard to tell. Like a lobster waiting to be plunged into a saucepan of nice warm salty water, it probably has no idea if the hotel will turn a profit this year. Either way, life has a habit of righting itself and nothing lasts very long.
I don't blame our women folk neither will I just give up.
I'm not ascribing any of the above to intentional actions -- on anybody's account. Most of this is down to social evolution -- and degradation -- over time; it's too big to be steered by one individual. The way it's all worked out, though, has been "unfortunate".