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I'm thinking the look without the turtle neck is the better choice. In my opinion the black tights work fine with the red dress. Then again, my sense of style does tend to be left of the center.
Personally, and this is just an opinion of mine, but I think that high waisted dresses work well for those of us who are a little "round" in the middle, provided it has a good cone, "A" shape from high waist down. Take the black dress photographed in the "dress happened" thread. It hugs my body all the way down to my thighs. This means that it shows every curve, including my rather round belly, as well as love handles. The white dress, because the dress part starts above my gut area, it hangs off of it. It seems to provide a smoother drop to the hem.
Then again, I suppose it's just a matter of personal taste. Some, including some on this board like the look of pencil skirts/dresses, that hug every curve. I for one am not a fan. I like dresses and skirts with a more cone, or "A" shape. The white dress photograph puts the top of the "A" right below my breast area, thus fans out from that point onward.
My thoughts may be a little biased, but if you should happen upon a "A" line high waisted dress with a good cone shape, I think you should give it a try. Yeah, it gives us somewhat of a school girl look, but as for me, it helps feather out my gut, which to me is a fair trade off.
Just some ideas.
Personally, and this is just an opinion of mine, but I think that high waisted dresses work well for those of us who are a little "round" in the middle, provided it has a good cone, "A" shape from high waist down. Take the black dress photographed in the "dress happened" thread. It hugs my body all the way down to my thighs. This means that it shows every curve, including my rather round belly, as well as love handles. The white dress, because the dress part starts above my gut area, it hangs off of it. It seems to provide a smoother drop to the hem.
Then again, I suppose it's just a matter of personal taste. Some, including some on this board like the look of pencil skirts/dresses, that hug every curve. I for one am not a fan. I like dresses and skirts with a more cone, or "A" shape. The white dress photograph puts the top of the "A" right below my breast area, thus fans out from that point onward.
My thoughts may be a little biased, but if you should happen upon a "A" line high waisted dress with a good cone shape, I think you should give it a try. Yeah, it gives us somewhat of a school girl look, but as for me, it helps feather out my gut, which to me is a fair trade off.
Just some ideas.
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Darryl wrote:Well, in for a penny and all that....
Picked these up on a clearance. May only wear it in the house, but..... And....I DO have some red leggings, maybe red opaque tights as well, somewhere....
Can't say I like the V next, here or on the charcoal gray tunic, but a polo shirt or sports tshirt may take care of that. I basically wanted to try things out and get a feel for how it would wear. That said, I may have to search around online to find something more better. We shall see. There is also my mom's reply when I was worrying about wearing the support hose the nursing staff and my doctor recommended: "If you want to wear it, wear it."
I think you look fine without the Turtleneck. Maybe try a vest over it if you don't like the turtleneck look? Either way you look nice.
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Moon,
I like the idea of a summer-weight white casual LONG skirt or dress for men, but you know I'm fairly conservative in regard to male image, so, for my taste, your white dress is just a bit too feminine. That being said, wear it if it makes you happy.
So, my HUMBLE OPINION on men's dresses is this:
First, finding a woman's dress with an adequately masculine effect is all but impossible. The two challenging elements are hem length and bodice shape. Most male bodies, with a modest population of exceptions, have shorter legs, typically, and longer, thicker upper bodies. I wish it weren't so, but that's just a fact with which we must contend. In my opinion, a man's dress should accommodate that fact in the tailoring.
If tied or belted, that line would fall at the male waist, not the female waist. The bodice is the hard part to get right with a dress, especially if it is at all constricted. Caftan type maxis work better. Neckline, shoulders and sleeves are also issues.
I think a Henley or Nehru neckline would work well in a summer dress, but not a plunging neckline or a scooped neckline.
Shoulders need to be broader for enhancing a sense of masculinity, not that anyone is required to desire that sense. Sleeveless is marginal unless you are fairly buff in the upper arms. Tanks should ride higher without deep plunging necks, backs, or underarms. A racerback style can work, but depends on your upper body shape. For those of us with a fair bit of mass on top, standard short sleeves are better, or long sleeves with plenty of arm room, so they can be rolled up. A button strap on rolled up long sleeves would be ideal, IMHO.
I also think that certain ruffled hems can be sort of...odd...for a man, although I do think that some shirring or ruching can work in the skirt design. Even some batik or geometric lace detail and sheer fabric can work, but it's difficult to clarify my opinion on how much and what sorts I'd find appropriate. This could include borders or inserts of geometric embroidery or even sheer wedding-veil fabric. A tiered look can be too frilly, if that's the way it's sewn. I think embroidered lace in small amounts could add to the aesthetic of a long white summer skirt or dress.
How sheer fabric might be used in a summer dress for a man; imagine a variation of this shirt dress tailored for a man: http://www.jcpenney.com/fifth-park-slee ... 20502M.tif
Too, I'm not a fan of "mini" or "midi" looks in a light, white summer dress or skirt for men; I would reserve those lengths for other colors. I think to make a light weight white skirt/dress really work for a man it should be full length. Imagine yourself on the veranda of your plantation, drinking an Old Fashioned on a summer afternoon. What image do you want to project?
Anyway, just my opinion, and worth every cent it cost!
I like the idea of a summer-weight white casual LONG skirt or dress for men, but you know I'm fairly conservative in regard to male image, so, for my taste, your white dress is just a bit too feminine. That being said, wear it if it makes you happy.
So, my HUMBLE OPINION on men's dresses is this:
First, finding a woman's dress with an adequately masculine effect is all but impossible. The two challenging elements are hem length and bodice shape. Most male bodies, with a modest population of exceptions, have shorter legs, typically, and longer, thicker upper bodies. I wish it weren't so, but that's just a fact with which we must contend. In my opinion, a man's dress should accommodate that fact in the tailoring.
If tied or belted, that line would fall at the male waist, not the female waist. The bodice is the hard part to get right with a dress, especially if it is at all constricted. Caftan type maxis work better. Neckline, shoulders and sleeves are also issues.
I think a Henley or Nehru neckline would work well in a summer dress, but not a plunging neckline or a scooped neckline.
Shoulders need to be broader for enhancing a sense of masculinity, not that anyone is required to desire that sense. Sleeveless is marginal unless you are fairly buff in the upper arms. Tanks should ride higher without deep plunging necks, backs, or underarms. A racerback style can work, but depends on your upper body shape. For those of us with a fair bit of mass on top, standard short sleeves are better, or long sleeves with plenty of arm room, so they can be rolled up. A button strap on rolled up long sleeves would be ideal, IMHO.
I also think that certain ruffled hems can be sort of...odd...for a man, although I do think that some shirring or ruching can work in the skirt design. Even some batik or geometric lace detail and sheer fabric can work, but it's difficult to clarify my opinion on how much and what sorts I'd find appropriate. This could include borders or inserts of geometric embroidery or even sheer wedding-veil fabric. A tiered look can be too frilly, if that's the way it's sewn. I think embroidered lace in small amounts could add to the aesthetic of a long white summer skirt or dress.
How sheer fabric might be used in a summer dress for a man; imagine a variation of this shirt dress tailored for a man: http://www.jcpenney.com/fifth-park-slee ... 20502M.tif
Too, I'm not a fan of "mini" or "midi" looks in a light, white summer dress or skirt for men; I would reserve those lengths for other colors. I think to make a light weight white skirt/dress really work for a man it should be full length. Imagine yourself on the veranda of your plantation, drinking an Old Fashioned on a summer afternoon. What image do you want to project?
Anyway, just my opinion, and worth every cent it cost!
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Moon, Just a thought but sometimes women use a belt at the natural waistline in a contrasting colour to draw the eye away from the chest area and hence lower down. If necessary add three or four belt loops to keep the belt in place or just wear the belt loose so that the front hangs. Experiment with this - it may work. I agree with doing away with the drawstring. MOH has a couple of white broderie anglaise dresses with a built in slip that I like and would love to wear so I know where you are coming from. Yes these are feminine but I DON'T CARE I LIKE THEM. So whilst some of the remarks may seem a bit caustic I think that they are being honest and they certainly mean well. We all experiment because we don't really have many people to advise us. Some of the things you wear aren't for me but then I wear some minis and nearly all of my skirts are knee length or above which you have said that you won't wear. We are all different and wear what fits in with our perceptions and mindframes. Keep on trucking Moon and don't get upset by the comments.
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Interesting comments...going to percolate ideas another month or two with the idea of having some workable ideas by Spring.
I've already tried a tunic look: http://www.skirtcafe.org/forums/viewtop ... 45#p151219 and I'll either find or make something a wee bit longer, maybe 2" or so but still above the knee. About where gym shorts would be, perhaps, or the old short shorts I wore as a kid.
The V-neck is where I'm thinking my problem is. Either a shirt over the top, or a t-shirt or sheath (?) under it. Could just get a Star Trek skant (everyone knows I'm a Trekkie).....
Oh well, just started playing around with the dress idea. It is interesting to not have anything belted or wrapped around your middle.
I tend towards blacks and Navy solids. I have the afore-mentioned red leggings and tights as well as an asynch blue skirt which I wear, living where I do the skirt shows support for UK and the red tshirt with the cardinal and sometimes red leggings show support for UofL.
Know what you mean about the 'cone.' This is a tad tight in the middle, though hitting the gym for 1-2 hours a day is helping and I've got a Spanx shaper I can wrap around the midsection that buys a half-inch. And I do prefer the straight-line or pencil skirt, and also like the Tulle (circle?) skirt I got recently. There's even a place for the pleated knee-length skirt (though not in any kind of real wind) and the maxi. The skirt is a known "pallette" and I can mix-and-match for the look I want.
The dress...is new and unfamiliar territory. That's also where the fun lies. How can I look like me, a guy, in such-and-such dress? I may need to wear support hose and have another problem or two but all of that applies when I wear shorts, too. Whatever it is I think I'm one for the mid-thigh to 1.5" above the knee, in whatever it is.
With luck, I'll learn how to make a k'toneth (a long, shirt-like garment) with short-sleeves (or long) and falling to a comfortable height at or above the knee.
Thanks, everyone.
I've already tried a tunic look: http://www.skirtcafe.org/forums/viewtop ... 45#p151219 and I'll either find or make something a wee bit longer, maybe 2" or so but still above the knee. About where gym shorts would be, perhaps, or the old short shorts I wore as a kid.
The V-neck is where I'm thinking my problem is. Either a shirt over the top, or a t-shirt or sheath (?) under it. Could just get a Star Trek skant (everyone knows I'm a Trekkie).....
Oh well, just started playing around with the dress idea. It is interesting to not have anything belted or wrapped around your middle.
I tend towards blacks and Navy solids. I have the afore-mentioned red leggings and tights as well as an asynch blue skirt which I wear, living where I do the skirt shows support for UK and the red tshirt with the cardinal and sometimes red leggings show support for UofL.
Know what you mean about the 'cone.' This is a tad tight in the middle, though hitting the gym for 1-2 hours a day is helping and I've got a Spanx shaper I can wrap around the midsection that buys a half-inch. And I do prefer the straight-line or pencil skirt, and also like the Tulle (circle?) skirt I got recently. There's even a place for the pleated knee-length skirt (though not in any kind of real wind) and the maxi. The skirt is a known "pallette" and I can mix-and-match for the look I want.
The dress...is new and unfamiliar territory. That's also where the fun lies. How can I look like me, a guy, in such-and-such dress? I may need to wear support hose and have another problem or two but all of that applies when I wear shorts, too. Whatever it is I think I'm one for the mid-thigh to 1.5" above the knee, in whatever it is.
With luck, I'll learn how to make a k'toneth (a long, shirt-like garment) with short-sleeves (or long) and falling to a comfortable height at or above the knee.
Thanks, everyone.
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Well, lets just face it.... most dresses are difficult for men to master, but not impossible, and like so many other things in life, often comes down to "acquired taste". And no matter what we do, I believe that dresses designed for women, are going to look somewhat "off" on a man. It really just comes down to do you find a man in a dress agreeable or not. There are some that do not, and that's their right, just as there are some people who find men in skirts (any skirt) "wrong".
It would be nice if there were more "men's" dresses as shown in Gordon's thread on the custom made dancing dress. But just as oh so many working women during world war II donned their husbands trousers and coveralls to work in the factories, eventually the look of women in trousers caught on, and clothing manufacturers began churning out more trousers better suited for the woman's body. So it has potential to be the case for men in skirts and dresses. It may take a few of us wearing something that most of society will seem completely ridiculous, to slowly turn the tide and move the trend forward. Skirts are a big step in that direction, and I do hope that I live long enough to see the day where something other than a traditional kilt can be openly worn by men everywhere and maintain their masculinity. The Macabi and Skirtcraft skirt are the two that come to mind right now that are leading the way as far as skirt producers go, hopefully more will soon follow, as really the only difference between a men's skirt and a women's skirt is just the label in the back. Skirts, much like the people who wear them, are really all the same under the "skin".
But even should such a day come, just as there about about maybe one in a thousand women who like to wear men's baggy trousers and cargo pants.... there will always be people like me who wear the frilly, layered, boho hippie skirts, and those of you who wear the mini's. In all honesty, we all know that if a man skirt ever catches on, they style will probably be dark colored knee length A lines, because that's the skirt design that would best appeal to the widest male audience, it best resembles the "baggy shorts" they are already wearing.
It's funny Dennis, my wife and I were discussing skirt styles today around the table, and I got somewhat of a chuckle at the fact that some of us on this site wouldn't be caught dead in each others styles. But that's okay... that's what makes us humans, and special. If we all wore the same thing, the world would be pretty dull after all. It's like the old political saying... "I may not agree with what you're saying, but I'll defend your right to say it". Such as it is here, and that's why I like this little online community.
This site is the only connection I have to other male skirt wearer's, and I draw a lot of encouragement from that.
Anyway, back to the white dress...
I may just remove the draw string, as it's really for nothing more than looks anyway. I had considered this before, but I decided to wait as once the string is pulled out, it would be a bear to fish it back in should I change my mind in the future. That being said, it really serves no purpose other than as a decorative "bow" on the front of the dress.
There is one thing, that the factory women of WWII, and us have in common, that being we are all working for freedom.
It would be nice if there were more "men's" dresses as shown in Gordon's thread on the custom made dancing dress. But just as oh so many working women during world war II donned their husbands trousers and coveralls to work in the factories, eventually the look of women in trousers caught on, and clothing manufacturers began churning out more trousers better suited for the woman's body. So it has potential to be the case for men in skirts and dresses. It may take a few of us wearing something that most of society will seem completely ridiculous, to slowly turn the tide and move the trend forward. Skirts are a big step in that direction, and I do hope that I live long enough to see the day where something other than a traditional kilt can be openly worn by men everywhere and maintain their masculinity. The Macabi and Skirtcraft skirt are the two that come to mind right now that are leading the way as far as skirt producers go, hopefully more will soon follow, as really the only difference between a men's skirt and a women's skirt is just the label in the back. Skirts, much like the people who wear them, are really all the same under the "skin".
But even should such a day come, just as there about about maybe one in a thousand women who like to wear men's baggy trousers and cargo pants.... there will always be people like me who wear the frilly, layered, boho hippie skirts, and those of you who wear the mini's. In all honesty, we all know that if a man skirt ever catches on, they style will probably be dark colored knee length A lines, because that's the skirt design that would best appeal to the widest male audience, it best resembles the "baggy shorts" they are already wearing.
It's funny Dennis, my wife and I were discussing skirt styles today around the table, and I got somewhat of a chuckle at the fact that some of us on this site wouldn't be caught dead in each others styles. But that's okay... that's what makes us humans, and special. If we all wore the same thing, the world would be pretty dull after all. It's like the old political saying... "I may not agree with what you're saying, but I'll defend your right to say it". Such as it is here, and that's why I like this little online community.
This site is the only connection I have to other male skirt wearer's, and I draw a lot of encouragement from that.
Anyway, back to the white dress...
I may just remove the draw string, as it's really for nothing more than looks anyway. I had considered this before, but I decided to wait as once the string is pulled out, it would be a bear to fish it back in should I change my mind in the future. That being said, it really serves no purpose other than as a decorative "bow" on the front of the dress.
There is one thing, that the factory women of WWII, and us have in common, that being we are all working for freedom.
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I have a dress that is similar to what you are going to learn to make, but it is longer:Darryl wrote:Interesting comments...going to percolate ideas another month or two with the idea of having some workable ideas by Spring.
I've already tried a tunic look: http://www.skirtcafe.org/forums/viewtop ... 45#p151219 and I'll either find or make something a wee bit longer, maybe 2" or so but still above the knee. About where gym shorts would be, perhaps, or the old short shorts I wore as a kid.
The V-neck is where I'm thinking my problem is. Either a shirt over the top, or a t-shirt or sheath (?) under it. Could just get a Star Trek skant (everyone knows I'm a Trekkie).....
Oh well, just started playing around with the dress idea. It is interesting to not have anything belted or wrapped around your middle.
I tend towards blacks and Navy solids. I have the afore-mentioned red leggings and tights as well as an asynch blue skirt which I wear, living where I do the skirt shows support for UK and the red tshirt with the cardinal and sometimes red leggings show support for UofL.
Know what you mean about the 'cone.' This is a tad tight in the middle, though hitting the gym for 1-2 hours a day is helping and I've got a Spanx shaper I can wrap around the midsection that buys a half-inch. And I do prefer the straight-line or pencil skirt, and also like the Tulle (circle?) skirt I got recently. There's even a place for the pleated knee-length skirt (though not in any kind of real wind) and the maxi. The skirt is a known "pallette" and I can mix-and-match for the look I want.
The dress...is new and unfamiliar territory. That's also where the fun lies. How can I look like me, a guy, in such-and-such dress? I may need to wear support hose and have another problem or two but all of that applies when I wear shorts, too. Whatever it is I think I'm one for the mid-thigh to 1.5" above the knee, in whatever it is.
With luck, I'll learn how to make a k'toneth (a long, shirt-like garment) with short-sleeves (or long) and falling to a comfortable height at or above the knee.
Thanks, everyone.
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Looks great, Judah. Very Biblical. Nice work.
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I think part of the reason why something like a scoop neck or a v-neck on a dress being worn by a man puts people off is due to conditioning. We've been trained to either cover up all the way to the neck and to at least the upper arms (unless we wear "wife beaters" or basketball jerseys in certain situations) or to be nude from the waist up. Anything else will cause affront, either to the wearer themselves or to others around them.
In my case, due to my body type, I'm unlikely to partake in the latter, at least in an area that's not clothing-optional. At the same time, as I've become older, I've realized that the typical collar on a t-shirt is rather constricting, unless I buy a shirt that's a couple sizes too large. So, I've expanded my horizons, literally to the point where I frequently wear something above the waist that doesn't cover my shoulders, upper arms, or come anywhere near my neck. It's a lot more comfortable that way. Plus, it does allow the ability to rid myself of the farmer's tan I've had for 20-30 years and to maximize absorbtion of vitamin D.
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In my case, due to my body type, I'm unlikely to partake in the latter, at least in an area that's not clothing-optional. At the same time, as I've become older, I've realized that the typical collar on a t-shirt is rather constricting, unless I buy a shirt that's a couple sizes too large. So, I've expanded my horizons, literally to the point where I frequently wear something above the waist that doesn't cover my shoulders, upper arms, or come anywhere near my neck. It's a lot more comfortable that way. Plus, it does allow the ability to rid myself of the farmer's tan I've had for 20-30 years and to maximize absorbtion of vitamin D.
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I routinely wear my dress shirts with the top two buttons undone -- which produces a fairly strong V-neck signal -- and have never gotten so much as a lick of grief for it. Now, admittedly, my beard covers quite a lot of that area, but the signal is still there, so I think the V-neck look can work well on guys. I'd not take it to the extreme that some of the gals do, but a bit of a V I think is fine. Personally, I think a V-neck extending to the navel -- on either sex -- is tacky.Kilted_John wrote:I think part of the reason why something like a scoop neck or a v-neck on a dress being worn by a man puts people off is due to conditioning. We've been trained to either cover up all the way to the neck and to at least the upper arms (unless we wear "wife beaters" or basketball jerseys in certain situations) or to be nude from the waist up. Anything else will cause affront, either to the wearer themselves or to others around them.
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A V-neck is pretty diferent from a scoop neck. One is for enhancing/displaying cleavage, the other isn't, necessarily. Unless you take some pleasure in looking at some guys hairy chest, then why would you choose clothing that creates such a display? Unless we can manage to enhance the attraction to the male busom, why would you want that cut? If it's a matter of not finding dresses suited to the male anatomy, why pretend it looks okay? We have to face the differences in anatomy and clothing design.
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You all are overlooking one important fact... men don't have to worry about wearing tops that show their chest, because it's not uncommon for a man to walk around topless. And many men do, just for that very reason, to woo the women. And many women do like the look of some men topless.
Women wear tops to cover their breast, or more precisely, their nipples. In some area's they can walk around topless legally, but in many, they can not. So they wear large scoop necks, two piece's, etc as their way of showing off their chest area. Do away with the prohibition of women going around topless, and I'd say overtime the scoop neck, and like would fall to the wayside. You'd either be wearing a shirt, or not. Just as many women wear large scoop necks to display their cleavage, many men (and I've seen them everywhere) wear their shirts unbuttoned all the way down when entering stores, and other places where "shirts" are required. They are in compliance because they are technically wearing a shirt, it's just open in the front.
It's two sides of the same coin, it's all about attracting the opposite sex. As for me, I'm not trying to attract anyone, so that permits me to just wear what I want.
I think that's what most clothing style on both sides boil down too, women attracting men and men attracting women. If you don't have a horse in that race, then you're free to choose what YOU want to wear! Some people have a problem seeing men in scoop necks for the same reason other people have a problem seeing men in skirts... they just think it looks "wrong".
Fact number 1: It's all an arbitrary prejudice.
Fact number 2: It's just clothes. It's not like we're robbing little old ladies, killing kittens, and sacrificing babies.
Fact number 3: I've gotten dirty looks for wearing Macabi skirts, feminine skirts, sandals with socks, and bibbed overalls. No matter what I do, I seem to offend SOMEBODY. It's IMPOSSIBLE to please EVERYBODY! So why bother pleasing ANYBODY? Just please YOURSELF!
Fact number 4: V necks are male garments too, I've purchased a few and wear them with my skirts, and they came from the men's section of K-Mart.
Women wear tops to cover their breast, or more precisely, their nipples. In some area's they can walk around topless legally, but in many, they can not. So they wear large scoop necks, two piece's, etc as their way of showing off their chest area. Do away with the prohibition of women going around topless, and I'd say overtime the scoop neck, and like would fall to the wayside. You'd either be wearing a shirt, or not. Just as many women wear large scoop necks to display their cleavage, many men (and I've seen them everywhere) wear their shirts unbuttoned all the way down when entering stores, and other places where "shirts" are required. They are in compliance because they are technically wearing a shirt, it's just open in the front.
It's two sides of the same coin, it's all about attracting the opposite sex. As for me, I'm not trying to attract anyone, so that permits me to just wear what I want.
I think that's what most clothing style on both sides boil down too, women attracting men and men attracting women. If you don't have a horse in that race, then you're free to choose what YOU want to wear! Some people have a problem seeing men in scoop necks for the same reason other people have a problem seeing men in skirts... they just think it looks "wrong".
Fact number 1: It's all an arbitrary prejudice.
Fact number 2: It's just clothes. It's not like we're robbing little old ladies, killing kittens, and sacrificing babies.
Fact number 3: I've gotten dirty looks for wearing Macabi skirts, feminine skirts, sandals with socks, and bibbed overalls. No matter what I do, I seem to offend SOMEBODY. It's IMPOSSIBLE to please EVERYBODY! So why bother pleasing ANYBODY? Just please YOURSELF!
Fact number 4: V necks are male garments too, I've purchased a few and wear them with my skirts, and they came from the men's section of K-Mart.
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OK - 'V' neck T-shirts vs 'crew' neck T-shirts.
We've had that discussion. My preference is
for the 'V' neck T-shirt because if I wear a
casual/dress shirt with the top 1 or 2 buttons
undone, the white T-shirt doesn't show.
Now ponder this - what about the 'A' shirt
It is more of a traditional undershirt, not binding
at the arms.
Example -
This HAS a scoop neckline yet it is/was common place to
see men wearing just this undershirt. Therefore, I believe
that a scoop neck 'shirt' works just as well as a scoop neck
dress. Now these 'A' shirts are called 'Tank-Tops' and worn
by both men & women.
Does this concept change anyone's idea or feelings about
the neckline of a man's dress
Just my $.02 worth
Uncle Al
We've had that discussion. My preference is
for the 'V' neck T-shirt because if I wear a
casual/dress shirt with the top 1 or 2 buttons
undone, the white T-shirt doesn't show.
Now ponder this - what about the 'A' shirt
It is more of a traditional undershirt, not binding
at the arms.
Example -
This HAS a scoop neckline yet it is/was common place to
see men wearing just this undershirt. Therefore, I believe
that a scoop neck 'shirt' works just as well as a scoop neck
dress. Now these 'A' shirts are called 'Tank-Tops' and worn
by both men & women.
Does this concept change anyone's idea or feelings about
the neckline of a man's dress
Just my $.02 worth
Uncle Al
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Grand Musician of the Grand Lodge, I.O.O.F. of Texas 2008-2009, 2015-2016,
2018-202 ? (and the beat goes on )
When asked 'Why the Kilt?'
I respond-The why is F.T.H.O.I. (For The H--- Of It)
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Re: Seeking opinion on something....
I wouldn't think badly of you wearing any of those choices. The very high waist is difficult to reconcile without "a more typically female upper torso form" and on me it would tend to accentuate my belly. May be another colour for the "T" shirt.
There are not many actual laws governing clothing in the Western/European countries, exposing the genitals would be one no-go although exposing half the butt seems OK, so it is just fashion governing what the majority wear. I think that if you look in the mirror, or at a few selfies, and are happy with the look ............. WEAR IT.
It really depends on how fearless you are of rejection and derision to push the local envelope of clothing acceptability.
If some say something looks too feminine, it is just that frills, lace and some colours and patterns are currently out of fashion for men.
PS. The pic is not me ......... I am not THAT brave.
There are not many actual laws governing clothing in the Western/European countries, exposing the genitals would be one no-go although exposing half the butt seems OK, so it is just fashion governing what the majority wear. I think that if you look in the mirror, or at a few selfies, and are happy with the look ............. WEAR IT.
It really depends on how fearless you are of rejection and derision to push the local envelope of clothing acceptability.
If some say something looks too feminine, it is just that frills, lace and some colours and patterns are currently out of fashion for men.
PS. The pic is not me ......... I am not THAT brave.
My name is Anthony, please accept me for the person that I am.
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Re: Seeking opinion on something....
I heard once (maybe on the History Channel) that some of those ruffs were held together by pins (needles)....
YIKES! I'd be a nervous wreck!
Nice legs though....
YIKES! I'd be a nervous wreck!
Nice legs though....
When life gives you lemons, you just gotta eat em, rines and all.