Sightings "in the wild"

[the_scott_meister]

But if I did go out in a skirt I might opt to choose a kilt so that I had a legitimate claim to it being a men's garment, and that I'm not really a prevert, if you know what I mean. But maybe that's what all of the guys I saw were doing too.

{Tongue in cheek} Are you implying that those of us that go out in skirts are perverts? Umph! {takes the hump} LOL

No, not at all. But some might. Quite a few people I know would, in fact. I'm sure that I'm only preaching to the assembled choir here, but some people are of the opinion that anything that's different from what they wear (i.e. sports jersies, jeans, etc.) automatically makes you a "pervert". Isn't that crazy?

[couyalair]

But if I did go out in a skirt I might opt to choose a kilt...

Are you telling us you've not yet been out in a skirt?
It's high time you had a go. Tomorrow evening there will probably be so many kilts around (in some places at least) you'd look odd without one.

Martin (remembering my surprise, on new year's eve in Andalucia, at seeing kilts filling the town square at midnight).

[the_scott_meister]

I have been out skirted several times, though the most recent was on a summer camping trip. I believe that I recounted that trip on another thread somewhere, can't remember where exactly. All of the occurances have been when it was relatively secluded like camping or hiking, or not many people around. I don't know that I'd go to a mall on a busy Saturday. Someday I'll have some bigger guts.

[r.m.anderson]

I have been out skirted several times, though the most recent was on a summer camping trip. I believe that I recounted that trip on another thread somewhere, can't remember where exactly. All of the occurances have been when it was relatively secluded like camping or hiking, or not many people around. I don't know that I'd go to a mall on a busy Saturday. Someday I'll have some bigger guts.

the_scott_meister:

Good thing you put a space between "out - skirted" !
I would have wondered how someone from the forum could be "Outskirted" !
Imagine that happening at the SkirtCafe someone of us being outskirted and
upstaged.

Well I thought a bit of humour was needed to get over the New Years hangover !

"Skirt-Kilt-ON"
rma

[couyalair]

Imagine ... being outskirted and upstaged.

This has been suggested as the reason why some women do not like having us wear skirts -- they don't like being upstaged. I have a feeling that this was why my daughter appeared less than enthusiastic about the prospect of my being kilted at her wedding. Nothing was actually said, and everyone appeared quite happy on the day. I did not upstage her since most of her young friends probably wrote my off as a silly old weirdo.

Since few women actually wear skirts, they are not really likely to be outskirted!

Martin

[crfriend]

Since few women actually wear skirts, they are not really likely to be outskirted!

There seems, though, to be a subtext that the women don't want to be upstaged by the guys having better looking legs than the gals. There have been a couple of times that I've received joking threats that, "Your legs better not look better than mine!" communicated to me. Compounding the problem, the argument, "But you don't wear skirts." doesn't seem to hold water in that regard, either.

[STEVIE]

The point is not to "outskirt" or to prove we have "better legs".
This is not a competition to see who can look the best in a skirt, or at least it shouldn't be!
Male or female, the choice of garb should be equal,no judgement, no commentary.
I'm quite glad to say that I seem to have got beyond those "conversations"
My best one to date, " I know where that "skirt", came from". A female colleague referring to the Nukilt. She had it right because she had ordered a skirt from the same designer. Oddly, she said that she might order a Nukilt for her son, as a gift.
Steve.

[crfriend]

The point is not to "outskirt" or to prove we have "better legs".
This is not a competition to see who can look the best in a skirt, or at least it shouldn't be!

It absolutely should NOT be a "competition" of any sort, for if it gets to that point I suspect the entire idea would be undermined. I would not be unhappy, however, to get the occasional, "Wow, that looks good on you!" sort of comment -- and those are non-threatening.

Male or female, the choice of garb should be equal,no judgement, no commentary.

That indeed is the end-game. I would hope that the prohibition on comments in overly-politically-correct setting prohibiting comments along the lines of, "That really looks good!" would ultimately be relaxed because the playing-field would be a bit more level. Whether I'll live to see that day is open to conjecture, but I'm going to try to be there.

I'm quite glad to say that I seem to have got beyond those "conversations"
My best one to date, " I know where that "skirt", came from". A female colleague referring to the Nukilt. She had it right because she had ordered a skirt from the same designer. Oddly, she said that she might order a Nukilt for her son, as a gift.

It seems you have quite the bit of acceptance from your colleague -- well done! Usually comments and conversations like that only start happening when everybody involved is very comfortable indeed with what's happening. Applause, I feel, is called for!

[kingfish]

Next likely Boston area sighting:
a place where the skirt on a gent won't even draw a raised eyebrow. My friendly neighborhood science fiction convention.

Ten days hence, at the Westin Boston Waterfront hotel, the convention named "Arisia" (a non profit, volunteer run convention named after the planet in the "Lensman" series by E. E. "Doc" Smith) will be attracting a wide variety of kindred spirits, including the likes of yours truly.

It is also the place where I first saw someone skirted roughly 15 years ago, and the place where I first publicly skirted (outside of a Halloween dance) about a dozen years ago. One guy in particular at that time comes to mind. He roughly matched crfriend's general description, (6 foot something before the 4" stiletto pumps, long hair, full graying beard).

Come to think of it, he was also an avid filk singer, and played with the guy that managed the unix cluster when I was in college, deeb.

[Caultron]

I've made a number of sightings over the years.

The most recent was a guy wearing a black kilt at The Tilted Kilt, a chain of sports bars with a Scottish theme and waitresses who wear, uh, microkilts.

Maybe a year ago I spotted a young guy working at Target, a large discount department store. Required to dress in company colors, he was wearing a red shirt and a khaki kilt.

At a tattoo convention several years ago one guy showed up with his wife, a small child, and a plaid green kilt. People were actually cheering him, and he won a prize for having one of the best tats at the show. Definitely a counter-culture sort of place.

About ten years ago a guy where I used to work played the bagpipes, and on nicedays he used to practice in full regalia near the back of the parking lot. He didn't play badly: I think he was looking for a place he could play without anyone complaining about the noise. Once, when the management was serving lunch to all the employees (an annual custom) the piper played in the lunch area, kilt, sporran, jacket, Glengarry hat, the whole kit.

A co-worker at the same place one told me he belonged to a Scotish ancestry club and wore a kilt to all the meetings, I never actually saw him dressed up, tough.

We visited Scotland some years ago and saw lots of guys in cults, but mostly street performers and military dress uniforms. I have a photo somewhere of two military guards minding the entrance to Edinburgh Castel, a man and a woman. The woman was wearing pants and the guy was in a kilt.

The town where I grew up had a "sister city" relationship with a town in Scotland, and one year they had a parade featuring a marching drum and bagpipe corps.Their uniforms of course, were the complete kilt kit.

That's all that comes to mind right now.

caultron

[Kirbstone]

Interesting about your Scotland visit, Caultron. Some years ago my wife & I visited Edinburgh on University Graduation Day and the place was swarming with young men in kilt regalia dressed up for that. We had two dogs with us and took turns to look round St. Giles's Cathedral. While my wife was in there I was sitting in the campervan we had parked outside and I saw a young lad set up on a corner with his full regalia and pipes to busk.

He was a very fine piper indeed and had obviously studied 'Piobracht' for some years. I was enjoying his playing when two police persons, one of them female required him to pack up and clear off. Perhaps busking outside St. Giles's is 'Verboten', but what a shame!!!

T.

[kingfish]

This past weekend I attended a science fiction convention called "Arisia" at the Westin Boston Waterfront hotel in Boston.
Besides myself, I counted two skirts, two dresses, and enough modern kilts to practically count.
For the latter, I'd have to guesstimate that 5% of the male attendees were kilted.

[Caultron]

Interesting about your Scotland visit, Caultron. Some years ago my wife & I visited Edinburgh on University Graduation Day and the place was swarming with young men in kilt regalia dressed up for that. We had two dogs with us and took turns to look round St. Giles's Cathedral. While my wife was in there I was sitting in the campervan we had parked outside and I saw a young lad set up on a corner with his full regalia and pipes to busk.

He was a very fine piper indeed and had obviously studied 'Piobracht' for some years. I was enjoying his playing when two police persons, one of them female required him to pack up and clear off. Perhaps busking outside St. Giles's is 'Verboten', but what a shame!!!

T.

I'm sure you're right about street performances being prohibited outside the cathedral, at least without a license or permit.

I remember seeing a lot of kilt shops, with about £650 ($1,000) being advertised as the starting point for a complete kit. I suppose it's up to £1,000 by now. Well-made, though.

caultron

[Caultron]

This past weekend I attended a science fiction convention called "Arisia" at the Westin Boston Waterfront hotel in Boston.
Besides myself, I counted two skirts, two dresses, and enough modern kilts to practically count.
For the latter, I'd have to guesstimate that 5% of the male attendees were kilted.

Kewl. I'll have to remember sci-fi conventions as a place to go and not be too far out of place. Did they have kilts and accessories for sale there too?

caultron

[skirtyscot]

This past weekend I attended a science fiction convention ... I counted two skirts, two dresses, and enough modern kilts to practically count. For the latter, I'd have to guesstimate that 5% of the male attendees were kilted.

Were they related to any science fiction stories, or did it look like the guys were just wearing what they wanted?