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I don't think anyone would complain if the coat/jacket/blazer didn't have the school patch on the front.
If the jacket was plain, the outfit could fit into just about anywhere. Did you notice the I.D. lanyard he
was wearing Maybe the person was heading to a filming location, already in costume & makeup.
Granted, the 'choice' of a pink backpack/tote bag was not appropriate for the outfit.
Many mixed signals here

Just my $.02 worth

Uncle Al

Yonkas wrote: ↑Thu Sep 25, 2025 5:45 pm I guess I am in the minority here. While I think smoking is bad, and people shouldn't do it, not only do I think he's rocking his outfit, but there is nothing I find off putting around it.

Yonkas is right, there is nothing wrong with his outfit and he has the perfect right to wear it and take the bus, in and around Birmingham, in the UK.

Whether it is a good idea in certain locations and with the various stories in the news is totally open to discussion. His motives, as are ours, are totally unknown and cannot be assumed.

His outfit and his actions have made a national "news paper". Yes I know the Daily Star is a comic, but it is national.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest ... 1757327207

He is also featured on a number of Facebook posts. This one I found interesting, as it has him in a different outfit on a bus.
https://www.facebook.com/10008984735535 ... 720458266/

Again he is totally free to wear what he likes and take the bus where ever he likes.

I think it is interesting for us, how this particular chap is being portrayed in the 2025 media and we can take lessons from the situation.

The first video at the bus stop appears to have been taken without his knowledge, however the picture on the bus, he appears to be looking right into the camera and probably knew it was being taken. I think if you know that your photo is being taken, it is a good idea to smile and pose so the picture shows you in the best image. I have no idea about the context in either sets of pictures, but my point is to own the look and show it off.

In the UK, there is no right to privacy in a public place. If you are in the street or on public transport, anybody is free to take your picture at anytime. So when you go out, assume someone is going to take your picture, and if you know they are doing it, or if they ask, pose, smile and be nice. A picture will probably be taken with or without your permission, so make sure it is a good one.

I hope this guy is OK and the as ever, I would love to meet him and chat.

That is different. Perhaps a form of cosplay, something quite acceptable with young and not so young men in Japan.

denimini wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 11:44 amThat is different. Perhaps a form of cosplay, something quite acceptable with young and not so young men in Japan.

Correct. As Mouse pointed out, we have no inkling of his motives, and with a lack of knowledge/understanding of intent imaginations -- and bad decisions -- can run rampant.

In any event, in the lack of evidence to the otherwise, one should assume neutral or good intent, It's worth recalling that rotters are, fortunately, pretty rare in the wild.

Mouse wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 3:47 am Whether it is a good idea in certain locations and with the various stories in the news is totally open to discussion. His motives, as are ours, are totally unknown and cannot be assumed.

As we all know Mouse, there are those who'd open the discussion with violence, they'd not assume his motives because they already believe they know them.
Sure could be interesting to chat to him, but I fail to see how he can be viewed as an ambassador for men in skirts.
As I said, this is one look that's for private consumption, even in liberal old UK.
Steve.

PS the lanyard likely holds some form of travel pass. In my neck of the woods, school kids and old fogeys like me get free public transport.
A lot of folk, old and young carry them on that style of lanyard to prevent loss.

FranTastic444 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:24 am The contrarian part of my brain says “nobody questioned Angus McCoatup Young wearing a boys school uniform”

Context! Deliberately theatrical costume gets a pass (like full drag). My college chaplain once wore girls' school uniform to a party (fancy dress: St Trinian's), but not in public.

STEVIE wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 11:08 pm As we all know Mouse, there are those who'd open the discussion with violence, they'd not assume his motives because they already believe they know them.

Yes that is my fear.

STEVIE wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 11:08 pm Sure could be interesting to chat to him, but I fail to see how he can be viewed as an ambassador for men in skirts.

He is not an ambassador for MIS, but he is on the media stage and is a man in a skirt, hence why I get Mrs Mouse sending me a link to his story. We have no control over any man that wears a skirt and has pictures online, but we can observe and learn from what we see. hence my original post.

Mouse wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 6:56 am

STEVIE wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 11:08 pm As we all know Mouse, there are those who'd open the discussion with violence, they'd not assume his motives because they already believe they know them.

Yes that is my fear.

STEVIE wrote: ↑Fri Sep 26, 2025 11:08 pm Sure could be interesting to chat to him, but I fail to see how he can be viewed as an ambassador for men in skirts.

He is not an ambassador for MIS, but he is on the media stage and is a man in a skirt, hence why I get Mrs Mouse sending me a link to his story. We have no control over any man that wears a skirt and has pictures online, but we can observe and learn from what we see. hence my original post.

They made Mandelson ambassador to the US. On that basis he's perfect for the job.

The image does look fake like its AI or photoshopped. Nevertheless we have discussed school uniforms numerous times on SC and the usual consensus is its a bad image and should be avoided if we're serious about normalising mens skirts. I've been pretty fearless wearing skirts as a man but even I would balk at wearing a school uniform (even a boys one) due to the associations it brings. Particularly difficult as I have a fondness for tartan skirts but know the perils of wearing any similar to a local uniform (increasingly difficult as more and more schools adopt tartan skirts)

In saying that I have worn some outfits that are basically the same without school identifying logos eg a mans shirt/tie/blazer, plain or tartan skirt.

skirted84 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:51 pm Particularly difficult as I have a fondness for tartan skirts but know the perils of wearing any similar to a local uniform (increasingly difficult as more and more schools adopt tartan skirts)

I think that these skirts, though worn by school girls, could look good on males. Perhaps a kilt is the closest we can get to this without causing an issue.

First off, while we may be able to allow for and even identify with his motives, that is not the point.
The fact is that there are people out there who will act first and think after, I desist from "shoot first" as it's a UK issue so less likely.
Self appointed vigilantes and preservers of "moral standards" exist everywhere!

Grok wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:22 pm Perhaps a kilt is the closest we can get to this without causing an issue.

There is a rub there too Grok, especially in Scotland.
Those "righteously indignant" individuals are a lot more likely to be fully cognisant with the difference between a Kilt and a kilted skirt.
Gods help the wearer if he is wearing such a skirt in a recognisable local school tartan.
As I said they exist everywhere and are trouble waiting to happen.
Steve