Musings about our changing times and how I anticipate it may effect me (us)

[crfriend]

... for white, heterosexual male US citizens.

Who were born with a billion-dollar trust fund. Everybody else is going to get the shaft.

[Mouse]

Mouse we live in the same world we are both handed the same sandwich and told its good for us.
Except one thing.. I don't think that our circumstance put upon us by our givenment is any mistake, lack of judgment or mishandling. The situation is just as it's meant to be. Our king graciously accepted £45m pay rise, amazon doesn't pay any tax and if you break the speed limit a fine arrives in a very efficient manner.
All this to say that the influx of immigrants is no mistake, no error was made. We are no more than cattle, I don't want to say that but I'm finding it hard to reach any other conclusion.

I think it is common knowledge that Tony and his friends, opened the flood gates to boost the Labour vote, since immigrants tend to vote Labour. Problem seems to be that once open, subsequent governments have found it impossible to close.

[TonautBrom]

Common amongst people you associate with, Mouse.

Didn’t think you’d have those kind of views. Shame.

[Barleymower]

Mouse we live in the same world we are both handed the same sandwich and told its good for us.
Except one thing.. I don't think that our circumstance put upon us by our givenment is any mistake, lack of judgment or mishandling. The situation is just as it's meant to be. Our king graciously accepted £45m pay rise, amazon doesn't pay any tax and if you break the speed limit a fine arrives in a very efficient manner.
All this to say that the influx of immigrants is no mistake, no error was made. We are no more than cattle, I don't want to say that but I'm finding it hard to reach any other conclusion.

I think it is common knowledge that Tony and his friends, opened the flood gates to boost the Labour vote, since immigrants tend to vote Labour. Problem seems to be that once open, subsequent governments have found it impossible to close.

That's a generous view Mouse. Another view is the people that have come to this country are prepared to work for less. Which is good news for the employer, Tony Blair, Gordon, David, Theresa and Boris. The tax payer pays all the costs. I won't include Liz in that list becuase she might have done something for the people and you can't have that.

It makes me sound like i have sometjing against them, i dont. I have an Scotish/Welsh/Irish heritage so don't have much to complain about. Still I have to be realsitic, the channel has been one of the best protections a country can get. To say we can't stop them isnt true (in my view). I think they are lying.

[Ray]

When I had my house built, the Polish and Bulgarian builders were terrific. The British (English, but they’re all the same in the U.K.) were embarrassing by comparison.

I, for one, have had no problems with immigration - probably for the reasons above. I did have a massive issue with the morally corrupt previous government and their mop haired civilly convicted cretin of a leader. Note that I make no mention of party here; that party has had some decent governments. The one that was smashed at the polls in 2024 was not a good government.

The current one isn’t that impressive so far but the Budget wasn’t bad. They seem to be morally well behaved to date - well, relatively.

[moonshadow]

Maybe things won't be so bad...

... for white, heterosexual male US citizens.

Let's care about other people.

I do care, but I'm also not blind to the situation. I will also admit when I was mistaken, and this is that time.

Donald Trump showed us his way of doing things from 2016-2020, despite everything that happened, this country doubled down in 2024 and handed him a landslide victory, claiming both EC and popular votes, also sweeping congress to boot. Frankly I'm starting to wonder if there might have actually been election interference in 2020, as in all my travels from the Atlantic to the Pacific, it seems that 99 out of 100 people flat out worships the ground Trump walks on. He is an extremely popular man, and is adored by practically everyone, save for a handful of celebrities.

Like it or not, the jury is IN... and this is, without a doubt, TRUMP COUNTRY. It belongs to him, and him alone. We gave him this power because, in our collective view, he is without fault, and he can do no wrong.

As for the non-conformist (gender or otherwise), I have tricks up my sleeve to protect non-conforming people (well... me anyway), ranging anywhere from 1st and 14th amendment protections, various state and federal law, religious freedom, etc. It saved me in 2016 and I feel confident it can do it again.

As for transgender women, they have existed ever since the dawn of humanity and will continue to do so. They can not be eradicated despite certain people's best efforts to do so.

As for immigrants, well, there number might be up. But if they're not here legally, and this country is so bad, then I suppose they could go be somewhere else illegally [sarcasm]. They're here for a reason, and I suppose they'll just have to decide if this country is worth it henceforth. Maybe Canada can take them in?

As for the economy.... best wishes.

Based on the rhetoric I've been reading for the last few years, it's safe to say this country doesn't share my values. Maybe it's always been that way... maybe I'm the one that changed, I don't know. But I do know this, the masses can continue on and follow Trump all day, every day. I plan to follow the teachings of Christ. Maybe mine and America's paths will cross again... maybe not.

But that's all I can do.

And with that, I wash my hands of this.

[MrSoapsud]

Frankly I'm starting to wonder if there might have actually been election interference in 2020, as in all my travels from the Atlantic to the Pacific, it seems that 99 out of 100 people flat out worships the ground Trump walks on.

Please, let's not go there again. An awful lot of lawyers made a lot of money trying to prove there was interference and there was none. What actually is happening is Republican state officials redrawing electoral maps and making it harder for certain people to vote in order to help more Republicans get elected.

[moonshadow]

Frankly I'm starting to wonder if there might have actually been election interference in 2020, as in all my travels from the Atlantic to the Pacific, it seems that 99 out of 100 people flat out worships the ground Trump walks on.

Please, let's not go there again. An awful lot of lawyers made a lot of money trying to prove there was interference and there was none. What actually is happening is Republican state officials redrawing electoral maps and making it harder for certain people to vote in order to help more Republicans get elected.

In all my travels, state to state, big cities and small towns, it seems EVERYONE is absolutely ecstatic right now.

If you go on the LOCAL news websites (e.g. Komo news Seattle (often considered the most "liberal" city in the country)) every time they post a poll about his policies, the results are always favorable by a wide margin, comments are mostly supportive (and pretty downright nasty at times regarding "libtards".)

I see a handful of people they are upset, but mostly people are celebrating this week.

Oh well.... *throws up hands*... have at it 'murica.... may the odds be in your favor, I give up.

Still waiting on the cost of groceries to come down.... and I assume my rent will be slashed 50% any day now. Also my insurance.

Come on people! We were promised PIE IN THE SKY! Well... where the hell is it???

[Myopic Bookworm]

In all my travels, state to state, big cities and small towns, it seems EVERYONE is absolutely ecstatic right now.

I suspect a lot of people are just hiding and reflecting right now. Nobody on the nonbinary Facebook page I follow is ecstatic. A couple of friends have posted the video clip of DJT getting gently but firmly roasted by an Episcopal bishop from the pulpit.

[moonshadow]

In all my travels, state to state, big cities and small towns, it seems EVERYONE is absolutely ecstatic right now.

I suspect a lot of people are just hiding and reflecting right now. Nobody on the nonbinary Facebook page I follow is ecstatic. A couple of friends have posted the video clip of DJT getting gently but firmly roasted by an Episcopal bishop from the pulpit.

Yeah....? Were they hiding and reflecting on November 5th?

[Myopic Bookworm]

In all my travels, state to state, big cities and small towns, it seems EVERYONE is absolutely ecstatic right now.

I suspect a lot of people are just hiding and reflecting right now. Nobody on the nonbinary Facebook page I follow is ecstatic. A couple of friends have posted the video clip of DJT getting gently but firmly roasted by an Episcopal bishop from the pulpit.

Yeah....? Were they hiding and reflecting on November 5th?

No, they were voting. In terms of vote share, Trump's winning margin is not wide. He has the appearance of a landslide mainly because of the structure of the electoral college.

Republican 49.8%
Democratic 48.3%
Green 0.5%
Libertarian 0.4%
Justice For All 0.0%
Other 0.9%

[crfriend]

We need to dismiss the notion of the United States being a "2 party" system once and for all. There is ONE party now, and ONE PARTY ONLY -- that of money, greed, and privilege. Only when we kick that system to the kerb will things ever have an even remote chance of recovering. Elon Musk as won the game -- and given the proper salute for it.

[moonshadow]

No, they were voting. In terms of vote share, Trump's winning margin is not wide. He has the appearance of a landslide mainly because of the structure of the electoral college

Not this time...

He won both the popular and EC. The EC by a wider margin than last go 'round. Any way you slice it... America has spoken, and they want Trump.

I don't even blame Trump anymore. This country knew what it was getting this time, and we asked a heaping helping of seconds.

No... this one's on us.

FUN FACT

If Trump's executive order existed in 1906, my great mother Palumbo would have been turned away at Ellis Island and sent back to Italy. (Her parents were immigrants)

Think about that... five generations of Americans... I would have never been born. I'm sure that would have made my father's side of the family very happy (especially considering they were among the "Know Nothing" party in the 1860s) and they never had much use for me anyway.

[Myopic Bookworm]

He won both the popular and EC. The EC by a wider margin than last go 'round. Any way you slice it... America has spoken, and they want Trump.

I don't even blame Trump anymore. This country knew what it was getting this time, and we asked a heaping helping of seconds.

No... this one's on us.

More people voted against Trump than voted for him. But you're right: on the whole, Americans have supported the unspeakable one. I just hope he screws up the country fast enough that there's enough backlash to prevent eight more years of his weirdo VP. Frankly, betweeen Trump and Putin, Xi Jinping is looking more and more like the adult in the room.

[Coder]

More people voted against Trump than voted for him.

Can you explain what you mean by this? Are you suggesting that all the people who voted for him weren't really voting for him, but voting against Harris?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Unit ... l_election

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but he garnered 2.3million more votes than Harris. Not trying to defend him etc...

Edit: I'm guessing you are referring to the fact that he didn't break 50%. Well, yeah, there is that. But, my guess is that no one really looks at the %, and just sees a bigger number.