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norstdresses wrote:

In the weets in my yellow swinging dress.gif

yes, Ron. Bright colors are really beautiful and I like them very much. Looks great your dress

while most of the time I wear bright colors now and then I do wear black.

I'll put it another way-the Prince must first of all conform to traditional masculinity to be considered. Think of traditional masculinity as being the first of a set of filters.

Grok wrote:I know this is getting way off topic, but there are both men and women who are rejected by mistake-individuals who are Diamonds In The Rough. Individuals who are who have a lot to offer, but are quickly ruled out because they don't seem to fit the images of Prince or Beauty Queen.

I refuse to feel even the slightest of pity for those who hold out for virtual impossibilities. They deserve the disappointment that they're setting themselves up for, pure and simple.

If we accept the common wisdom that the human species is fallible, then it follows by extension that none of us are perfect -- heck, some of us are pretty badly flawed in many ways but we still manage to get through our lives sometimes quite successfully. We need to learn to accept that we are who we are, and no matter how hard we may strive we will never be perfect, either to ourselves or to those around us. This does not mean that we should not try, but rather that we should take care that the occasional failure doesn't send us down a rat-hole.

I actually have little doubt that if I was single and unattached I would have little trouble in finding somebody, and before somebody makes that statement into something it's not I'll state that I am very happy indeed precisely where I am at the moment. Another thing to keep in mind in this regard: approach everything with as open a mind as possible; a closed mind is a closed door.

How can share top brands of men wear and women wear varieties representing different cultures and traditions? Presentation should be pictures please,

Peopel come in different shapes, so the terms menswear and womenswear are suitable for the marketing department. Femininity remains in the eye of the behoder. Whether you focus on objective reality or cultural "norms" but in the end, life is too important to dress for somebody else. I neither wanna look like Conan the Barbarian, Joe Lumberjack nor like a tranny. I like ambiguous styles, like a purple black londsdale hoodie with a brown pleated chinese corduroy skirt - unfortunately, the offer is expired , tights or OTK socks from sockdreams.com etc.

Grok wrote:I'll put it another way-the Prince must first of all conform to traditional masculinity to be considered. Think of traditional masculinity as being the first of a set of filters.

and traditional masculinity can be different depending on were you are,
after all there are places in the mid-east were men wear dishdash/man dresses
and nobody thinks that they are less masculine.
if anything they consider dishdasha part of traditional masculinity

I use to wear my "woman"dresses combined with jackets and shirts from the typical menswear rack

Other than jackets and coats in fall and winter because the men's variety have longer sleeves, I don't mix, I wear all womenswear: tops, skirts, hosiery (when called for), shoes (including heels), the whole nine yards. The colors and styles are more plentiful, the fabrics softer and nicer and just all around better.

Nice to hear from you Jeff! (It has been a while.)

I'm the "mix-and-match" sort, and shake things up as I see fit.

My waistcoats are all from the guy's side of the aisle, as are all my dress shirts because finding women's blouses that fit properly is almost impossible.

Given the above, I do have three "women's" blouses, one a white with upturned cuffs and a double-collar, another that's a teal green, and yet another one that's dark red with slightly-sheer sleeves.

The skirts, save for the bespoke ones from The MouseWorks, all came from the gal's side of the aisle (like there's a big surprise there).

I haven't worn conventional male socks in years, although my knockabout cotton "footie" socks are men's -- everything else is either knee-highs or tights of various ilk.

The shoes are always guys' type -- I can't find anyplace to get any interesting styles in my size.

One thing that's immediately apparent -- with any article of clothing -- is how much more refined the women's style is than the men's. The fabrics are almost invariably softer for the women's stuff and that tends to make the guys' stuff seem like sandpaper at times. The only drawback I sense is that the women's stuff isn't as durable as the men's and hence more expensive to "run" on a per-wearing basis.

Aside from my Macabi and my home-made Carhartt skirt and "wifebeater" dress, all my skirts are women-intended. I have a few other pieces of women-intended clothing, including lots of tights and trouser socks, a couple pairs of shorts, a couple pairs of convertible pants (legs roll up and button for a capri style), various leggings, an underlayer camisole, a long racerback dress, and a one-piece swimsuit. All my tops ond shoes are male-intended, though I have several pairs of clogs in unisex styles.

I have a maxim which I normally keep to:

Shirts with skirts and blouses with trouses. (deliberate spelling).

That way the femininity doesn't get out of hand, I don't completely lose my masculine identity and there can be no question of me trying to dress like a woman.

Derek

Derek Plattis wrote:I
That way the femininity doesn't get out of hand, I don't completely lose my masculine identity and there can be no question of me trying to dress like a woman.
Derek

I may have a feminine shaped body and no matter how I dress or groom myself I will never completely lose my masculine identity due to my basso profundo voice.

John

Derek Plattis wrote:That way the femininity doesn't get out of hand, I don't completely lose my masculine identity and there can be no question of me trying to dress like a woman.

Speaking just for myself, I don't give a damn if the femininity "gets out of hand". I'm secure enough in my masculinity, no matter how I'm dressed. I'll always be a man, regardless of if I'm wearing women's clothes.

JeffB1959 wrote:

Derek Plattis wrote:That way the femininity doesn't get out of hand, I don't completely lose my masculine identity and there can be no question of me trying to dress like a woman.

Speaking just for myself, I don't give a damn if the femininity "gets out of hand". I'm secure enough in my masculinity, no matter how I'm dressed. I'll always be a man, regardless of if I'm wearing women's clothes.

If you (a man) bought the clothes then they legally belong to a man. Therefore they are not "women's clothes" - they are a mans clothes