a bible thumper question and answer

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Re: a bible thumper question and answer

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Ricky_Reject wrote:The correlation referred to (low IQ score vs high degree of belief) is not something new. To many people, this is common knowledge. Several studies, dating back to at least the 1960's can showcase these results.
1. I'm sorry, but this assertion is almost certainly pure B.S. Even assuming that such studies were done (and in most cases, these things are simply asserted with no evidence or with made-up evidence), studies linking "IQ" to various social and biological factors are so routinely flawed to the point of worthlessness that serious sociologists don't even bother to debunk them any more. Stephen J. Gould's The Mismeasure of Man is but one of many books that tear the long, sorry series of "IQ is correlated with" "studies" to shreads. And this sort of claim is even more bogus -- to start with, how the xxxx does one put a numeric value on "degree of belief"?

2. Even if your claim were true, I would have to ask: why do you bring it up here? If you were to tell your wife that you had some study that "proved" that "women are less intelligent than men," just how would you expect her to interpret it? She would assume that you were consciously or unconsciously telling her that she was dumb because she was a woman.

And she'd be right.

This sort of thing is a convenient way to dismiss the ideas and values of whole groups of people without having to actually listen to them. (That's in fact how you introduced it in the first place -- we shouldn't waste our time engaging with these religious people because they're stupid.) The fact that you refer to it as "common knowledge" should tip us off that we're talking about some sort of dominant-group prejudice.

Now, there are a lot of religious people and groups I don't agree with, who I think are decidedly going down the wrong path. And there's a lot of (IMHO) stupid stuff said by religious people, in the name of religion. (And may I point out that this was common knowledge way back in J.C.'s day.) But I base my disagreement on what they do and say, not simply because they act (or say they're acting) out of religious faith.

Look up the terms "white privilege," "male privilege," and "class privilege." Maybe also "entitlement" (as in: sense of entitlement.)
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Re: a bible thumper question and answer

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Mod hat on.

OK, guys. That's it.

This is a prime example of what happens when this sort of topic comes up and, in retrospect, I'm sorry I didn't step on it sooner.
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