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Grok wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 1:14 am Same orchestra, with the men in full penguin mode.

If I join an orchestra and play violin or viola, I would not wear a coat and tie outfit. It looks really awkward to hold the instrument under your chin while wearing a jacket and tie. Instead I would wear a dress or a gown. Now for any other instruments a coat and tie outfit would be fine.

John

JohnH wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:11 pm If I join an orchestra and play violin or viola, I would not wear a coat and tie outfit. It looks really awkward to hold the instrument under your chin while wearing a jacket and tie. Instead I would wear a dress or a gown. Now for any other instruments a coat and tie outfit would be fine.

John

Another option?
Mark Wood Viper "Floating" Violin?
YouTube video demonstration link below.
https://youtu.be/AzFvTaLnXls

That "floating violin" would be unacceptable in an orchestral setting. It's an electric violin with frets. On the other hand a dress or gown would be acceptable as typical female attire in an orchestra.

Or if I wanted to wear the coat and tie outfit I could simply play cello.
Believe me, it would not be a big deal to wear a dress as I do it all the time time.

John

Grok wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:38 pm

STEVIE wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:26 am I wear a necklace in one form or another most days now.
More occasionally that will be on top of an actual tie or a silk scarf and hey, why not?

So, you are combining neck wear from both sides of the aisle? Interesting, the experiments that members come up with.

I was thinking that you might wear a necklace with an ascot. Perhaps a gold chain making a loop below the ascot. Or wearing a choker above the ascot.

JohnH wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:10 pm It's an electric violin with frets.

John

Just to be clear, Mark Wood Viper violins are available with fretted necks, fretless necks with fret markers embedded (phantom frets as Mark calls them) and fretless without any fret markers at all.

Any kind of electric violin would be unacceptable in a symphony orchestra.

John

Suits with T-shirts and necklaces. Scroll down.

Grok wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:25 pmSuits with T-shirts and necklaces. Scroll down.

T-shirts and suits do not mix. Full stop. Shades of Steve Jobs once his style sense went into the toilet.

crfriend wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:34 am T-shirts and suits do not mix. Full stop. Shades of Steve Jobs once his style sense went into the toilet.

Thought about it, and I now agree. There is too much clash between formality and informality. This clash also applies with the idea of wearing sneakers with a suit.

Yesterday, at a grocery store, I notice a young man wearing a necklace. A new employee, I believe. A silvery chain worn with a T-shirt. I suspect a younger generation of men is somewhat more adventurous than their elders, in terms of personal expression.