Skirt suits

[Since1982]

Very good, skip, apart from the fact that Mr Brown assisted a British queen

The last English queen died some 400+ years ago!

'Scuse me Ray, I live in America and we are usually not so UP on nomenclature from THAT side of the pond. You've got me afraid to call it "Britian" now. Or is it "The British Isles" or is it "England" geez, you've really got me confoozled. I hereby promise to never again refer to anyone in "those islands" as anything that might be taken untowardly. Still no answer to my question about skirt suits.

[Ray]

Skip,

It's easy. It's the UK or "Britain". Just like saying the US or "America".

Calling the UK England is like non-Americans calling the US "Texas".

Spread the word!

[Ray]

Sorry - forgot to answer your question.

The film was Mrs. Brown, with Billy Connolly playing John Brown; Judy Dench played Queen Victoria.

[mugman]

Dame Judi Dench lived a few minutes from me - well, one of her homes anyway. I never got to meet her, though she was frequently asked to open our local fetes. But sometimes I bumped (not literally) into her late husband Michael Williams shopping in Costcutters .

[Kris]

Very good, skip, apart from the fact that Mr Brown assisted a British queen

The last English queen died some 400+ years ago!

Skip,

It's easy. It's the UK or "Britain". Just like saying the US or "America".

Calling the UK England is like non-Americans calling the US "Texas".

Spread the word!

Ah, yes. The UK is England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, isn't it?
And IIRC, for a while there, the UK had German monarchs rather than English or British, say from George I to George III?
How did that work out for you?

Kris

[Sylvain]

And in America, there is also Canada, Mexico, Salvador, Ecuador, Brazil...

[Milfmog]

The UK is England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, isn't it?

Yes; but to clarify(?) further...

Great Britain is the name of the largest island of the British Isles. The majority of England, Scotland and Wales are on this island though all three countries include numerous smaller islands. The name of the country I live in is shown on my passport (generally described as a British or UK passport but actually an EU passport issued by the UK Passport Authority) as "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". So Northern Ireland is clearly NOT part of Great Britain but is, as you say Kris, a part of the United Kingdom.

To add to the confusion; England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are officially classified as constituent countries of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland; so if I'm asked which country I live in I have two technically correct answers ("UK of GB and NI" or "England") and at least two others that are recognised ("The UK" (as if there is only one united kingdom - how arrogant is that?) or "Great Britain" (technically wrong but well recognised)).

Darn it, now I don't know where I live. I knew I was getting older but did not expect to forget where home was just yet...

Have fun,


Ian.

[Ray]

Kris, No problems with German monarchs! Nice for a change...

Ian, as I said, "UK" or "Britain". Dead easy, unless you are dealing with sub-parts. Neither is arrogant, IMAO.

Sylvain, I tend to use the US (as recently advised, I should use "USA") rather than America to avoid this confusion. I know a few Canadians who do not take kindly to being called American.

Now who here incorrectly says "Holland" when they mean "Netherlands" and more importantly, what's Peter V's take on it, not foreign pedants like me?

[Since1982]

Oy Vey!!! Oops, can I say that if I'm not Hasidic? Or even Hebrew? Or Jewish?

I say potato you say potatoe, I say tomatoe you say tomato, Round and round she goes, where she stops nobody knows, put all your money on the red. Oops, that might be construed as being Communist, scratch that, Put all your money on the black. Wait a min, now someone is gonna think I'm a racist. Oy Vey!!!!

Seriously, I do hope that my uneducated comment about "England" doesn't start a flame war about who can say what in what way. I get bad info from watching movies like "Braveheart" when King Edward the Longshanks, the King of England, (according to "Braveheart") cannot control everyone on "his own" island. Uneducated watchers like me, get the idea that the "whole Island" is England and Scotland and Wales and Ireland are like suburbs. My bad. My knowledge of " The United Kingdom" is very poor, even though about 25% of my heritage came from somewhere there. I have Scottish, Irish, Welsh and English in my heritage as well as lots of other "peoples" like France, Norway, Germany and the Cherokee nation. My heritage in America, on my father's side goes all the way back to the Mayflower and the ship's carpenter's mate. My mother's side came here with the French explorers that came to the area from Canada and mixed with the Cherokee. The German and Norweigan parts came thru later marriages. I must say though, that Canadians are definitely American. There is North America and South America, North America is divided between Canada and the United States of America. Canada is bigger, has more land, might not have more people, but is definitely part of North America, which makes Canadians, (whether they like it or not,) Americans.

[Uncle Al]

OK-Let's get back to Mugman's concept. I think it is a great idea.
I hope to see a completed design. I do think it will be along the lines
of the 'Tweed Kilt Suit' as I mentioned a few pages back. Mugman
has a good start........let's see what his next phase is, ok

Uncle Al
Duncanville, TX

[Peter v]

Kris, No problems with German monarchs! Nice for a change...

Ian, as I said, "UK" or "Britain". Dead easy, unless you are dealing with sub-parts. Neither is arrogant, IMAO.

Sylvain, I tend to use the US (as recently advised, I should use "USA") rather than America to avoid this confusion. I know a few Canadians who do not take kindly to being called American.

Now who here incorrectly says "Holland" when they mean "Netherlands" and more importantly, what's Peter V's take on it, not foreign pedants like me?

Holland is well known, probably better "known" than "the Netherlands" probably in the US, the UK, and Australia, I would imagine. It is actually "Nederland" But who would know where THAT was?

[Kris]

I must say though, that Canadians are definitely American. There is North America and South America, North America is divided between Canada and the United States of America. Canada is bigger, has more land, might not have more people, but is definitely part of North America, which makes Canadians, (whether they like it or not,) Americans.

And don't forget Mexico, which is also part of North America!

(And so ends, at least on my part, today's geography lesson.)

Kris

[sapphire]

Whatever happened to Cornwall?

[Milfmog]

Whatever happened to Cornwall?

I think it drowned in the recent rain...

Have fun,


Ian.

[SkirtedViking]

My opinion is that skirt suits for men should be in the same variety as skirt suits for women. Unfortunately, as history has shown first women wore only feminine trousers (in the 60's) and when society accepted that event in fashion , many of them started wearing even trousers made for males(same goes for t-shirts,shoes,etc.). Though it is not often in formal wear I have seen women even in male trouser suit. So what I say is that the equation - boys are in blue,but girls in pink and blue or whatever they like shall be changed but gradually. And males that want to be so called "masculine" will be such, but others who do not want to be in that sphere (reffering to the stereotype) will freely express themselves. As not all women wear so called "feminine" things and behave thus gently, but noone questons their femininity. But braveheart-ship has more chance to suceed, the latter (full fashion freedom - women have it, come to see the complete outfits from the men's section that some women wear in my country) as it happened with women shall come with time.