Will skirts for men finally catch on in Generation Z?
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OMG! What is it going to take to put this notion that men aren’t allowed to wear skirts and dresses in public?
Look through these posts for how many of us wear skirts everywhere if not women’s wear exclusively. Do you think we would continue to do that if we got non-stop crap for doing so?
Do I think that skirts will become a staple of men’s wardrobe? I doubt and what’s more I don’t care. I don’t care because no one stops me from going to the grocery store, work, car repair shops, clothing stores, etc. in my dresses.
I do think male members of Gen Z will be less inhibited than we were and normalize men wearing skirts, but I doubt it will become as common as men wearing pants; just even fewer people will care and more women will go beyond the current ethic of most women feeling it’s just fine if not cool for men to wear skirts; just not their man.
Look through these posts for how many of us wear skirts everywhere if not women’s wear exclusively. Do you think we would continue to do that if we got non-stop crap for doing so?
Do I think that skirts will become a staple of men’s wardrobe? I doubt and what’s more I don’t care. I don’t care because no one stops me from going to the grocery store, work, car repair shops, clothing stores, etc. in my dresses.
I do think male members of Gen Z will be less inhibited than we were and normalize men wearing skirts, but I doubt it will become as common as men wearing pants; just even fewer people will care and more women will go beyond the current ethic of most women feeling it’s just fine if not cool for men to wear skirts; just not their man.
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G'day Stevie...You are right . In WW 2 they didn't so much fight in kilts like WW1 but they still wore them as soldiers for commemorations , military parades and such as soldiers prepared to lay their lives on the line for the country . In WW1 they were famous for fighting in the mud and slush in a kilt probably like in most previous conflicts .. It still is a part of military and police history in several countries that are part of the Commonwealth of Nations to have kilts as a part of their uniforms for ceremonial purposes if it fits their role. I believe within our ADF there are several military pipes and drum bands serving and reservists who carry out ceremonial duties regularly ..It's been like that for a long time .STEVIE wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:26 am I may be wrong but the only soldiers who fought in kilts in WW1 and 2 were Scots or in Scottish based regiments.
In fact, in the 2nd World War, most kilts would have been for ceremony and not action.
The Scots uniform in the first war did nothing to alleviate the horrors and tribulation of trench fighting.
Steve.
In my home State of Tasmania our police often play a big part in all sorts of commemorations like this dressed in the kilt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtx7K2DY8ss&t=49s. Sometimes our police and army serve together when deployed to peacekeeping places and disaster relief .. I take my hat off to all of them .
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Wow, that’s dark. Like earth is flat conspiracy theory wearing a tinfoil cap dark.Barleymower wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:33 pm I see your point of view which follows a logical path. I don't however fully agree with what you are saying.
I don't believe that women's hard fought and won ground was by solely by women. Nefarious forces were at work in this period. My own contention is that the 'they" wanted women out of the home and paying more tax and a broken, obedient man.
They can't fully control everything, the Internet has been used against us but has also educated us by improving communication. 'They" have attempted to destroy the new knowledge by labeling anything they don't like as conspiracy or false news. Providing their own fact checkers.
Gen Z's are more savvie than us old timers and the giant pendulum will eventuslly swing back and balance will be restored. If men are loud and proud with a brand new wardrobe, then old man BM will sit in the corner sipping my soup with a smile on my face.
No offense, but anytime someone uses the phrase “they” without previously defining who they is, I’m remarkably skeptical. We all swear government is so fouled up they can’t do anything until suddenly the government is part of a global cabal controlling our thoughts.
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In my opinion, we are stuck in the day to day meanderings of our lives where from our perspective, fashions change slowly. But thinking back to medieval times when men wore dresses and tights, that didn’t stop within 76 years, an average lifespan of a random person. But when history looks back, it sees great seats in fashion because it looks over centuries.
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Agreed. The younger generation just doesn’t care. And that’s awesome.Pdxfashionpioneer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:33 pm OMG! What is it going to take to put this notion that men aren’t allowed to wear skirts and dresses in public?
Look through these posts for how many of us wear skirts everywhere if not women’s wear exclusively. Do you think we would continue to do that if we got non-stop crap for doing so?
Do I think that skirts will become a staple of men’s wardrobe? I doubt and what’s more I don’t care. I don’t care because no one stops me from going to the grocery store, work, car repair shops, clothing stores, etc. in my dresses.
I do think male members of Gen Z will be less inhibited than we were and normalize men wearing skirts, but I doubt it will become as common as men wearing pants; just even fewer people will care and more women will go beyond the current ethic of most women feeling it’s just fine if not cool for men to wear skirts; just not their man.
And you’re also right, we really shouldn’t set a goal of all men incorporating skirts into daily wear. Goal should be acceptance of the choice in clothing without judgment
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During WW1, kilt-wearing soldiers were often issued with kilt-covers to keep the tartan clean, sometimes just an apron, sometimes a full cover. (For the latter, see the catalogue record in the Imperial War Museum: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30097669)Tazzmac wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:30 pmG'day Stevie...You are right . In WW 2 they didn't so much fight in kilts like WW1 but they still wore them as soldiers for commemorations , military parades and such as soldiers prepared to lay their lives on the line for the country . In WW1 they were famous for fighting in the mud and slush in a kilt probably like in most previous conflicts .. It still is a part of military and police history in several countries that are part of the Commonwealth of Nations to have kilts as a part of their uniforms for ceremonial purposes if it fits their role. ...STEVIE wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:26 am I may be wrong but the only soldiers who fought in kilts in WW1 and 2 were Scots or in Scottish based regiments.
In fact, in the 2nd World War, most kilts would have been for ceremony and not action.
The Scots uniform in the first war did nothing to alleviate the horrors and tribulation of trench fighting.
Steve.
Cheers
There is also a book, titled "Those Bloody Kilts: The Highland Soldier in the Great War"; the online blurb includes some nice illustrations. https://mediadrumworld.com/2019/06/27/k ... rs-of-ww1/
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Not sure of you're in the U.S. or not, but here in the U.S. the government actually can't do anything right. It's the corporations that are controlling your thoughts.
Our government is useless, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, etc run the show here.
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If you believe the earth is flat and you need a tin foil hat, thats' your right. Who am I to dispell the notion?ScotL wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:40 amWow, that’s dark. Like earth is flat conspiracy theory wearing a tinfoil cap dark.Barleymower wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 7:33 pm I see your point of view which follows a logical path. I don't however fully agree with what you are saying.
I don't believe that women's hard fought and won ground was by solely by women. Nefarious forces were at work in this period. My own contention is that the 'they" wanted women out of the home and paying more tax and a broken, obedient man.
They can't fully control everything, the Internet has been used against us but has also educated us by improving communication. 'They" have attempted to destroy the new knowledge by labeling anything they don't like as conspiracy or false news. Providing their own fact checkers.
Gen Z's are more savvie than us old timers and the giant pendulum will eventuslly swing back and balance will be restored. If men are loud and proud with a brand new wardrobe, then old man BM will sit in the corner sipping my soup with a smile on my face.
No offense, but anytime someone uses the phrase “they” without previously defining who they is, I’m remarkably skeptical. We all swear government is so fouled up they can’t do anything until suddenly the government is part of a global cabal controlling our thoughts.
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... and Black Rockmoonshadow wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:31 amNot sure of you're in the U.S. or not, but here in the U.S. the government actually can't do anything right. It's the corporations that are controlling your thoughts.
Our government is useless, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, etc run the show here.
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Look no further than the "Forbes 500 List". The families on that own the government -- and us -- lock, stock, and barrel.moonshadow wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:31 amOur government is useless, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, etc run the show here.
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Yep, in the US. And use of Elon Musk right now May not be a good example.moonshadow wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:31 amNot sure of you're in the U.S. or not, but here in the U.S. the government actually can't do anything right. It's the corporations that are controlling your thoughts.
Our government is useless, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, etc run the show here.
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And is the suggestion here that the “they” is a secret cabal of Forbes 500 members that meets together at a super secret locale known only to a few every three months to coordinate the future of society? And somehow everyone who believe this is in the know whereas the rest of us aren’t privy to such secret information? And the people who clean the rooms and cook the food at this super secret locale wouldn’t let the secret out? Or are they all killed to maintain the secrecy. Or, do these all powerful leaders do all the cooking, cleaning, maintaining, traveling, washing, bill paying and gardening themselves. Yeah, that must be it.
This is ludicrous. No offense. But this is not a coordinated effort maintained by a secret society to rule over you. This is what happens when any society states an individual owns something and therefore that something is given worth that another will trade there something of for. So people stockpile “somethings” and some are better than others at it. And by better, I mean some are more willing to screw over their neighbors than others.
And before someone goes off on how socialism is a better system, please take a moment to realize capitalism is alive and well in China. It’s just given a different name with even fewer in the drivers seats.
But in other news, will likely wear a kilt in the snowy north with usual socks pulled up and leggings underneath. It’s -10 Celsius. Should be interesting
This is ludicrous. No offense. But this is not a coordinated effort maintained by a secret society to rule over you. This is what happens when any society states an individual owns something and therefore that something is given worth that another will trade there something of for. So people stockpile “somethings” and some are better than others at it. And by better, I mean some are more willing to screw over their neighbors than others.
And before someone goes off on how socialism is a better system, please take a moment to realize capitalism is alive and well in China. It’s just given a different name with even fewer in the drivers seats.
But in other news, will likely wear a kilt in the snowy north with usual socks pulled up and leggings underneath. It’s -10 Celsius. Should be interesting
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Couldn’t have said that any better myself. If Gen Z guys want to wear skirts, fine by them, that doesn’t affect me and how I go about life as a fashion freestyler.Pdxfashionpioneer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:33 pm OMG! What is it going to take to put this notion that men aren’t allowed to wear skirts and dresses in public?
Look through these posts for how many of us wear skirts everywhere if not women’s wear exclusively. Do you think we would continue to do that if we got non-stop crap for doing so?
Do I think that skirts will become a staple of men’s wardrobe? I doubt and what’s more I don’t care. I don’t care because no one stops me from going to the grocery store, work, car repair shops, clothing stores, etc. in my dresses.
I do think male members of Gen Z will be less inhibited than we were and normalize men wearing skirts, but I doubt it will become as common as men wearing pants; just even fewer people will care and more women will go beyond the current ethic of most women feeling it’s just fine if not cool for men to wear skirts; just not their man.
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That's the joy of the entire thing. They're operating right out in the open in full view of anybody who's paying attention. Why do you think that all the shenanigans in the media are there to distract folks from the facts of what's going on around them?
There's a key word in the above. To offer a clue, it's "attention".
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You are are right there is no big mind control. If people choose to believe the sanctioned news sources, that's their choice. That's what it is there for.ScotL wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:37 pm And is the suggestion here that the “they” is a secret cabal of Forbes 500 members that meets together at a super secret locale known only to a few every three months to coordinate the future of society? And somehow everyone who believe this is in the know whereas the rest of us aren’t privy to such secret information? And the people who clean the rooms and cook the food at this super secret locale wouldn’t let the secret out? Or are they all killed to maintain the secrecy. Or, do these all powerful leaders do all the cooking, cleaning, maintaining, traveling, washing, bill paying and gardening themselves. Yeah, that must be it.
This is ludicrous. No offense. But this is not a coordinated effort maintained by a secret society to rule over you. This is what happens when any society states an individual owns something and therefore that something is given worth that another will trade there something of for. So people stockpile “somethings” and some are better than others at it. And by better, I mean some are more willing to screw over their neighbors than others.
And before someone goes off on how socialism is a better system, please take a moment to realize capitalism is alive and well in China. It’s just given a different name with even fewer in the drivers seats.
But in other news, will likely wear a kilt in the snowy north with usual socks pulled up and leggings underneath. It’s -10 Celsius. Should be interesting
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