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Caultron wrote:I should look on some hunting web sites.
If you're after functional boots -- i.e. something akin to part of your tool-kit -- then for outdoor work, hunting or hardcore hiking sites would likely be best for what you're after. Hiking boots are quite different from "work boots" which can be had at lots of places and are geared primarily for protection of the foot proper; hiking boots need to protect the ankles and lower legs as well against things like briars and, depending on where you may be hiking, snake-bite.
Motorcycle or old-school "engineer" boots might be a decent bet as well so long as they don't have a whole pile of decorative details festooned on them.
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Maybe its a regional thing, but boots of many type are common in Colorado. In cool weather I mostly wear hiking boots with my kilts. I did successfully pair western packer style boots (a lace-up cowboy boot) with a black Workman's UK. I think it looked great.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I looked at some of those, and they seem interesting -- sort of the Western equivalent of Doc Martens -- but they miss several criteria for hiking. I'm afraid the elevated heels would get painful after 8-10 miles of hiking, for example, and most of the soles are smooth. Also, I'm looking for knee-high, not calf-high.
Yesterday I went hiking with my club yesterday in the mountains, with a route planned for 4 miles on-trail and 5 miles off. The off-mile portion turned out to be much more difficult than we expected, ending with a steep drop of 500-600 feet down a wash filled with flat boulders. I was wearing ankle-height hiking boots, knee-high mountaineering socks, a camouflage utility kilt, and a rugged long-sleeved shirt. I fell and skidded once, and brushed against a lot of bushy vegetation. The knee-high socks provided a surprising amount of protection but I still scratched up both knees. On several occasions I encountered loose steep soil where the best and safest move would've been butt-sliding down, but I stayed upright (assisted by hiking poles) because butt-sliding in a kilt is obviously problematic.
That kind of hike isn't my usual preference at all, and again it turned out to be much tougher than I or anyone else in the club expected. But does have me wondering if any pair of boots would provide as much protection as a good sturdy pair of (gasp) ranger pants.
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Caultron wrote:I'm afraid the elevated heels would get painful after 8-10 miles of hiking, for example, and most of the soles are smooth. Also, I'm looking for knee-high, not calf-high.
You'll want some amount of heel in a hiking boot, but not more than about an inch -- and you'll definitely want tread. Don't make the mistake of confusing "cowboy boots" with hiking boots: the two are very different items with very different use-patterns. Think infantry "army boots" -- those are designed for walking and marching around in -- as a base and then see if the amount of leg-protection is sufficient.
That kind of hike isn't my usual preference at all, and again it turned out to be much tougher than I or anyone else in the club expected. But does have me wondering if any pair of boots would provide as much protection as a good sturdy pair of (gasp) ranger pants.
Odd as it may sound to hear it coming from me, there are time when trousers win hands-down. From the sounds of it, you hit one of those on that last hike.
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I guess Im the odd man out here. I have 8 different pairs of boots in and even mix of mens and womens styles.
One pair are my old hiking and climbing boots I have had for well over 30 years and they tend to be the boots I wear with my Kilts.
Unless the weather is really cold I don't bother with boots but sometimes its nice to change up my foot wear. Most of the time when wearing boohs I wear them under my pants so most people don't notice. A 2" heeled boot is not that uncommon in Texas, with a large number of people wearing western boots. But put on one of the 3" heeled boots and women start to comment on your shoes.
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I have a pair of green wellies for seriously muddy digging in the garden and for wearing to the weir at Islandbridge when we portage our rowing eights over to re-launch them on the tidal stretch to row through the city (Dublin)
I also have a pair of chest waders for fly fishing and for maintenance of our little domestic rowing lake.
Other than that, shoes, plimsolls, trainers & sandals. Never boots. Never heels!.
phathack wrote:I guess Im the odd man out here. I have 8 different pairs of boots in and even mix of mens and womens styles.
One pair are my old hiking and climbing boots I have had for well over 30 years and they tend to be the boots I wear with my Kilts.
Unless the weather is really cold I don't bother with boots but sometimes its nice to change up my foot wear. Most of the time when wearing boohs I wear them under my pants so most people don't notice. A 2" heeled boot is not that uncommon in Texas, with a large number of people wearing western boots. But put on one of the 3" heeled boots and women start to comment on your shoes.
Not so odd. I, too, have a collection similar in size and variety. My affinity does tend toward the taller styles. Today's kilted walk downtown (roughly 3 miles) included a pair of high boots bought from Son of Sandlar a couple of decades ago.
One set on my long term wishlist is a pair of the 17 inch "pole climber" boots, with the current prospect coming from Bear Hollow Trading Post.
In defense of cowboy boots, I have comfortably put in eight hour shifts on my feet in them without long term negative effects. No, they're not designed for hiking, nor would I consider them even remotely water repellent (more like absorbent), but they are designed to handle supporting someone working on their feet in the pasture for long stretches of time. And they've been doing it for over a century.
crfriend wrote:...You'll want some amount of heel in a hiking boot, but not more than about an inch -- and you'll definitely want tread. Don't make the mistake of confusing "cowboy boots" with hiking boots: the two are very different items with very different use-patterns. Think infantry "army boots" -- those are designed for walking and marching around in -- as a base and then see if the amount of leg-protection is sufficient.
Right, a pair of knee-high jungle combat boots would probably do the trick. They just don't seem to exist. Perhaps they don't work out in practice as well as I'm hoping.
crfriend wrote:Odd as it may sound to hear it coming from me, there are time when trousers win hands-down. From the sounds of it, you hit one of those on that last hike.
I think you're right, and I suspected the same before the hike. It's just that after everyone in the club had grown accustomed to me as the guy in a kilt, I hated to break character. My loss.
Courage, conviction, nerve, verve, dash, panache, guts, nuts, balls, gall, élan, stones, whatever. Get some and get skirted.
Caultron wrote:[...]I think you're right, and I suspected the same before the hike. It's just that after everyone in the club had grown accustomed to me as the guy in a kilt, I hated to break character. My loss.
I'd not call it a loss, but rather a "learning experience". Besides, when next you show up in heavy hiking trousers it'll put a bit of fear into the rest of the club for what they may be getting into!
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crfriend wrote:...You'll want some amount of heel in a hiking boot, but not more than about an inch -- and you'll definitely want tread. Don't make the mistake of confusing "cowboy boots" with hiking boots: the two are very different items with very different use-patterns. Think infantry "army boots" -- those are designed for walking and marching around in -- as a base and then see if the amount of leg-protection is sufficient.
Right, a pair of knee-high jungle combat boots would probably do the trick. They just don't seem to exist. Perhaps they don't work out in practice as well as I'm hoping.
That's half the reason why I've been coveting the pole climber style. Whether it is the ones mentioned above or a pair of Wesco Highliners, they are, in essence knee high combat boots, and are designed for people who spend all day walking through the back woods, wielding a chainsaw.
Pole climbers, eh? Those are interesting but I'm suspicious of the steel shank. I've been hiking with people wearing construction boots and any sort of steel toe or shank tends to be painful. Maybe I should find a pair locally and try them on rather than ordering via the web.
As to the Wesco Highliners, at $414 a pair I can see why you're coveting rather than buying.
Yikes! I wasn't figuring hiking into the question. I couldn't in good conscience ever recommend hiking in packer boots. The heel is a riding heel. Neither would I wear lineman boots on the trail, too heavy! Check with a mountaineering store for some Scarpa or Asolo hiking boots. Your feet will thank you for spending the higher price. They also look decent under a casual kilt. I've had compliments that way.
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