Sightings "in the wild"

[crfriend]

Interesting to note, here in Scotland it is still illegal for a guy to "impersonate" a female. [...] Parody is O.K. and still does nothing for our situation.

In this author's opinion, neither "impersonation" (i.e "role-playing") nor parody do anything to advance the notion of getting non-trousered garments accepted on guys -- in fact I would go so far as to posit that both detract from that notion.

The whole point, a I see it, is that a skirted rig for guys should -- eventually -- be as acceptable as trousers: nothing more and nothing less.

[N0HEQ]

Any man who wants to wear womens clothing will be wearing jeans or at least pants. This is the 21st Century. Women haven't concentrated on a skirt or a dress in several decades. So if you wish to wear a skirt or a dress as I do on a daily basis then you would need to do it as a man. Female "wannabees" dressing like women did in the 1950s are little more than clowns seeking attention.

[crfriend]

Any man who wants to wear womens clothing will be wearing jeans or at least pants. This is the 21st Century. Women haven't concentrated on a skirt or a dress in several decades.

This point has been belaboured and lamented by many a poster over time, this author included, but there is no real percentage in belabouring it further; women's styles will evolve based on the whims of designers and the desires of women themselves, and we have no power to influence -- much less compel -- otherwise. Lamenting it just sounds whiny.

So if you wish to wear a skirt or a dress as I do on a daily basis then you would need to do it as a man. Female "wannabees" dressing like women did in the 1950s are little more than clowns seeking attention.

As has been pointed up on this forum a number of times, there are substantial differences between a "bloke in a skirt" and somebody trying to role-play a stereotyped image. The latter character can find many on-line sites that will cater to his desires; the former, however, has a bit of a tough row to hoe because there are very few resources available that can offer hints, tips, and advice. For guys at the moment, kilts, certainly traditional and the up-and-coming "contemporary/casual" versions show much promise and will likely be taken up sooner than outright skirts; however, out-and-out skirts can work well on guys, and there are a number of exemplars here that demonstrate that.

It's also worth noting that slagging off on the "orthodox crossdresser" is counterproductive. Let's just state the differences and let it be done with.

[STEVIE]

When I said parody was O.K. I meant it purely from the Scottish Legal view, not a cultural or societal one. Certainly not from the point of acceptance to skirted males.
We are a minority, transvestites and transexuals are in the same boat, no better and no worse.
Steve.

[skirtyscot]

What, no sighting in the wild for over four months? What has happened? Has they stopped or have they become so commonplace that nobody comments any more?

Sadly the only men I have seen in skirts have been two Buddhist monks: one about a year ago in central Glasgow, the other in Vienna in July. Each was wearing an ankle-length maroon skirt and a matching shirt. Who knows, maybe they were the same guy. Two men walking along the Glasgow street commented to each other quietly about the monk, but the one in Vienna didn't seem to draw any comments at all.

Not sure Buddhist monks count anyway, it's a cultural thing, as against some Glaswegian (or Wiener) deciding to don a skirt for a change.

Of course, being in Bonnnie Scotland I'm not counting kilts. Maybe most guys who would wear skirts if they lived elsewhere just make do with the kilt, and that keeps the number of skirts down.

[couyalair]

I live up on the 9th floor and look down on a number of balconies on the other sides of an open space. It has amused me to see how often men appear with a towel wrapped around, doing odd jobs, sitting in the sun. They've obviously discovered the comfort of being unbifurcated at home, though would probably not make the huge step of going outside like that.
Then yesterday, I saw a man walking along the street in a towel. We often see that near the beach, but first time I've seen it in town.

I wonder if any of these men, seeing me in a skirt, will get the idea that they too can venture out. ( I doubt it !)

Martin

[Kirbstone]

While eating a late lunch last Sunday upstairs in T.1, Hamburg Fuhlsbuttel airport I remarked to myself how bloody daft looking this young bird was that shuffled past me in rediculously high platform shoes . She was wearing a beige check suit with a knee-length pencil skirt, which wouldn't have allowed her a decent stride anyway.
Later I spotted her seated on a high stool eating alone, and it was perfectly obvious 'she' was a bloke!!

I've never seen a CDer in public before, but as such I suppose he doesn't count here.

Tom K.

[azhiker]

There is a fella here in Phoenix that works at a local discount store. he is in charge of gathering all the carts in the parking lot and bringing them back into the store. he wears a utilikilt and i stopped him the other day to ask if he gets any flack for wearing it and he said not at all. now the problem with the utilikilt is it costs 200.00. i cannot afford that but can afford 18.00 for a jean skirt from the local gap store.

[couyalair]

There is a fella here in Phoenix that works at a local discount store ... gathering all the carts in the parking lot ...

It's good to hear of someone skirted in the workplace, and quite a public one at that.

Yes, the cost of Utilikilts is a big deterrent. I would not pay that for one, but it's amazing and encouraging to see how well their business is doing.

Plenty of places where you can find a simpler denim skirt for much less.

Martin

[Kilted Musician]

...now the problem with the utilikilt is it costs 200.00. i cannot afford that but can afford 18.00 for a jean skirt from the local gap store.

I can relate about the Utilikilts. I bought one about 10 years ago and it has held up very well. When I bought mine [what they called at the time, the NeoTrad], it was $135. The last time I priced the same style, it was $210! If you look at it over time, it's probably worth it. But no way can I afford $210 for another kilt. If I'm in the market for a kilt again, I'll probably check out Amerikilts or something on that order. But if I ever win the CA state lottery, then it's not an issue! In the meantime, I'll wear my 2 UKs and a variety of skirts...

--Rick

P.S. I used to live in Tucson...

[azhiker]

thanks for the couple of comments. wasn't sure if this site was very active or not. I hope it continues.

[crfriend]

It's good to hear of someone skirted in the workplace, and quite a public one at that.

I wear skirts to work more often than I wear trousers. It's gotten to be a bit of a joke really, as when I show up in duo-tubes everybody knows I'm not feeling my best; I think that over the course of the summer I may have worn trousers only two or three times.

Plenty of places where you can find a simpler denim skirt for much less.

Ah, but what happens if one happens to absolutely and completely detest denim?

[the_scott_meister]

Speaking of Phoenix, as that's where I am, last summer I saw a guy in what looked like a plain brown kilt, with sporan, at a JoAnn's store (fabrics and crafts). The year before that I saw a guy in a Home Depot in a Utilikilt. That's the first time I'd seen one. Since then I've seen a few others, a couple of guys with their girl friends at a Taco Bell and another couple of guys at an In-n-Out Burger. A few years before all of this I saw a guy at a Best Buy with what looked like a short pleated skirt, a bit too short for a kilt I think, but I didn't want to stare too long as he was a very big guy, so he probably didn't get messed with.

[Derek Plattis]

Have there been any sightings in the U.K.?

I've only ever seen one. Some years ago I saw a young lad in what looked like a maroon tennis skirt waiting at a bus stop in Blackpool.

Has anyone seen any?

[Big and Bashful]

Have there been any sightings in the U.K.?

I've only ever seen one. Some years ago I saw a young lad in what looked like a maroon tennis skirt waiting at a bus stop in Blackpool.

Has anyone seen any?

Once, a few years ago now, I saw a slender guy walking through Glasgow in a long pleated skirt,l don't remember much about him or it now, I think it was brown or maroon but I may be wrong. Only time I ever saw a male skirting, who wasn't me.