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couyalair wrote:Scotland is perhaps not quite as cold as Alaska, but a kilt of good wool is definitely a cold-climate garment. Not the easiest to make, unfortunately, though it can well be simplified with just 2 - 3 pleats at the back instead of the innumerable pleats they sew into the traditional military kilt. You'll need good woolen hose for your legs of course.
Alternatively, a good woolen (north-african) jellaba will keep the cold out, worn over whatever else you fancy. It's generally quite wide and straight, no shaping to shoulders or waist, so should ot be too difficult to make up.
Dragearen wrote: I know you typically wear a shirt (or a tunic) under it, but do you normally wear pants underneath?
couyalair wrote:Hi -- glad to know you can wear the kilt in such low temperatures. Aactually, I think heat and cold are just a matter of what we are used to, so I might notnecessarily feel as cosy as you do if I came to Alaska. Here the locals are wrapped in coats ans scarves at 15°c, when tourists from the north go out in t-shirts!)
Presumably, you are talking about the jellaba. Since it covers you up completely (in Morocco, they are ankle length), you can wear as little or as much as you like underneath. North Africans wear trousers of various lengths most of the year, but some go without in summer and wear a sleeveless cotton garment called a foquia or jebba.
couyalair wrote:By the way, in black Africa (west), where it can be very hot and humid, muslims wear a long cotton or even synthetic robe with sleeves -- ! -- and long trousers underneath, which I find quite incomprehensible, and most inappropriate for the climate.
It's quite an attractive costume and it can be very colourful, but I would not want to wear it myself.
I imagine that trousers are a symbol of modernity for peoples that used to go about more or less naked until they were colonized. African women (to my limited knowledge) prefer to be unbifurcated, unlike their European sisters. Africans in general seem to be quite astonished by my skirts.
I actually do already have one kilt (it's a 6 yard, 10 or 12oz), and I love it. Very warm and amazingly comfy, unless you're sitting very long periods of time. I do need to get better hose for it though, mine are a little thin. I don't think Scotland is quite as cold, but kilts do still seem to work here. It's even been -10 to -20F for the past week or more, but I've found mine to be much warmer than my typical jeans. The only reason I'm not getting another/making one is just that. They're difficult to make and very expensive. I hadn't thought of doing just a few pleats, and that certainly would work for a more functional garment. Would a dyed wool look good as a kilt, or do you think that maybe I could find a plaid wool? I'm on a bit of a low budget. I may do a full kilt later when I'm more experienced, but right now I think I want to start with simpler stuff. The extent of my sewing experience is making a hat. Once. With someone helping me.
Wim Jansma wrote:and ask a tailor to make a sarong by add two ribbons. And ready is your sarong.
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