You've got somewhere to go, have anything to wear?

Discussion of fashion elements and looks that are traditionally considered somewhat "femme" but are presented in a masculine context. This is NOT about transvestism or crossdressing.
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You've got somewhere to go, have anything to wear?

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Gentlemen, we have all been there: We finally break down and decide to take our significant other someplace they’ve been dying to go and their reflexive response is, “That’s great! But, oh my God, I have NOTHING to wear!” Now the pumps are on the other feet! The next time you decide to push a new boundary your next question is going to be, “Do I have anything to wear?”

I was recently asked this in a private message. Both my correspondent and I thought this might be of general interest so I thought I would adapt my answer to our membership. To provide the broadest application, I am going to assume you’ve gone out your front door a time or two but you’re still fairly new to this whole skirting business.

So, let’s say you’re planning to go someplace where you want to be fairly dressed up. The $64,000 question is how dressed up, is sufficiently dressed up? My marketing instructor said a salesperson should always dress a little more professionally than their customers. As a man breaking the social norms of who is supposed to wear a skirted garment, you're selling the concept that it makes just as much sense for men to wear them as women, so you want to be dressed a little nicer than the average woman in that situation. So, think back to how women are usually dressed in that environment and kick it up a notch. Not a whole quantum level, just a notch.

If most of the women wear pants, wearing a comparable skirt & top automatically accomplishes that. If skirts and tops are the norm, then try a comparable dress. In my mind, dresses are more formal than comparable skirts; i.e., you're more dressed up in a denim dress than a denim skirt and top, simple polyester business dresses trump simple polyester skirt & blouse outfits, etc. Just as is true that a jacket will dress up a pair of slacks and a shirt, a blazer will do the same for a skirt and top. Just make sure the jacket doesn’t hang far below the waist line. Then we move on to a skirted suit or even a matching jacket with that dress.

This last combination gets tricky because it is more formal. Are you trying to look professional or dressed up for a leisure activity? Jackets work well when you’re in a business setting; more fancy works better after hours.

You probably have a better handle on this than you think. If you're not sure about the appropriateness of an outfit think back to the women, you have seen in something similar to what you’re considering. How appropriate to the occasion did they appear? Did it look attractive or just eye-catching? How did you feel about that woman’s character? It's going to work exactly the same way for you, assuming it's appropriate for YOU. That is, it fits your style.

Many men get stumped by that question because we’ve had so few options in what we wear we never had to. Try this, now that you have few compunctions about going out in public in a skirt you can answer that question honestly, "Do I think I look ridiculous or unattractive in this outfit?” Any outfit from either department (men's or women's) should flatter you; make you look better than you would be otherwise. If it doesn’t flatter than no matter how beautiful a garment you have selected, it doesn’t fit YOUR style.

When I started down this path I was completely into Carl's credibility standard; I asked, "If most men wore skirts and dresses, would this be in the men's department?" However, I quickly found that to be too limiting. I believe that pushing the envelope is a necessary element of being stylish so I am more inclined to the mirror test I explained above, but either works.

Your outfit also has to fit. That seems obvious, but I know for too long of a time, that I was a sucker for a pretty outfit. If it looked good on the rack and I could squeeze into it, it came home. Once it got into the closet, if it didn’t fit, it stayed there because clothes that don’t fit aren’t comfortable. If they’re not comfortable, they’re no fun to wear. So even if you go out in them, you won’t look good; you’ll look like the clothes are wearing you instead of the other way around. I find that my challenge is finding something that will fit around my shoulders so I wear a size 10 skirt and a 14 or 16 top. If I want a suit, I need to buy separates in the same color by the same manufacturer.

The other thing you have to explore is accessories. You've worn those your whole adult life; shoes, belt, watch, rings (wedding and memory) and tie. You just didn't give them much thought. Womenswear is more nuanced so you have to carry that extra thinking through to the accessories. There are men's bracelets and necklaces so start there. If you're drawn to scarves, but hitting a mental speed bump look in vintage stores for Ascots and start with them or think of scarves as ties adapted to blouses and dresses.

What makes it tough for us guys to put an outfit together is that the male brain is generally more analytical (we optimize each piece) whereas the female brain is more holistic (optimizes the whole outfit). So, you have to step far enough back from the mirror to assess the total look.

Once, you’ve put your outfit together, smile at your accomplishment! You have overcome current norms, which is a very scary thing to do, and centuries of evolution that has bred the ability to think holistically out of you!

Now grab your coat and dash out to a day or evening of fun knowing you look your best and that there will be a number of men who will envy your courage and an even greater number of women who will envy your style and admire your verve!
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Nice cut at the topic, Dave. Very nice.

However, I have one small nitpick:
Pdxfashionpioneer wrote:When I started down this path I was completely into Carl's credibility standard; I asked, "If most men wore skirts and dresses, would this be in the men's department?" However, I quickly found that to be too limiting. I believe that pushing the envelope is a necessary element of being stylish so I am more inclined to the mirror test I explained above, but either works.
The term I use is believability not "credibility" -- because "believability" gives one vastly more leeway for experimentation than credibility. One can dovetail into another very tightly, but the main point is to be comfortable (mentally as well as physically) with an outfit you put together so that you don't look like a clown [0]. Credibility can grow from that, but that's more in the way you interact with others than simply how you look to others.

On the notion of fit, I suspect that the average guy is going to have a bit of a tough time with dresses. Many of us are at, or beyond, the outside margin of women's sizes -- even with the current waif look that's all the rage (and infuriating to women who have curves) -- and that's incredibly limiting especially since there's nothing really compelling on the men's side of the aisle. When it comes to dresses, I have heard of split-sized ones in the past but do not believe I have ever seen one in the wild; that's where separates come in.

I remain intrigued by the notion of the shirt-dress, but have never found one I thought to be worth kiting money on -- and the problem is almost always with the sleeves or occasionally the neckline, and the omnipresence of denim. I would like nothing more than, say, a black crepe shirt-dress with long sleeves (which can be rolled or pushed up if the need arises) that fit properly, and a perhaps-detachable belt or sash that could be tied around the waist to define it. I couldn't give a toss which side it buttons on as most of the time I'd probably wear it as a pullover.

A jacket always dresses things up nicely, but men's jackets are traditionally just a bit too long, and when one gets into the women's range geometry becomes a massive problem. Some guys can make it work, some guys can't. Guys with lots of spare cash on hand can solve many problems by having stuff either custom-made or altered after the fact, so they're obviously at an advantage.

Over the years, I've come to the gradual conclusion that having separates is actually an advantage because that increases the number of options that are available. Of course it also increases the confusion factor and can exacerbate the "I have nothing to wear" issue. One of the reasons dresses are so nice is that you toss it on and you're almost done. Matching up three or four pieces (or more) can be daunting -- and more mental work than likely lots of guys are going to want to exert in the morning before the coffee kicks in -- so dresses would make a good choice in that regard.

Here it is 05:20 in the morning, I've already been "at work" (in my kitchen) for 45 minutes and am fighting with what I want to wear today. I'm starting to converge on my red velvet skirt with a white shirt and one of my black waistcoats. That leaves legwear (it's going to be black or white). The shoes are easy. I have one style I wear in one colour. Easy is sometimes good.

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I do not wear skirts etc to impress others. Just myself and my wife who has no issue with men in skirts per se. Appearance and what one has on is at the end of the day down to ones perception as to suitability, looks well on a person etc. I tend to find the vast majority of public are accepting of a man in skirt even those who keep quiet and privately think "silly plonker". I do not think changing the minds of the minority who are negative, even "silly plonker" will not make any difference to their thinking on men in skirts specifically based upon ones choice of style and trying to be one bit better in appearance but perhaps for the latter whether to their perception the outfit is good or poor. Also, I feel if I am dressing consciously in a style that is not a society norm for men with others in mind as to appearance I make myself conscious that I am different. I am not different, I am embracing my freedom of choice, my preference, my right in a modern era that others do the same and without thinking of me or others. I wear skirts and other items from the "female" wardrobe because I prefer them to the expected "male" wardrobe. My entire wardrobe contains items I like and enjoy wearing for myself and my wife and reflect my personality. I hear many in society do dress to compete and I have heard many a woman openly say so and at times a very modern man, thankfully myself and my wife do not, we dress for us, ourselves. I choose my outfit because it has character, personality and a great deal more panache than the expected male clothes society says I should wear. I do not wear dresses at all, I do not feel right or comfortable in one.

Do not get me wrong, I will make sure the colours I wear do not clash with each other and as far as myself and wife are concerned the end product looks good and presentable. Long skirt or calf length depending on wet, dry, but the end style will be perfect for me and my wife. It takes me about 5 minutes to decide even though my wardrobe of skirts, scarfs, tops, cardigans is extensive to select from, in excess of 80 skirts, tops getting to that number and cardigans slightly less. Scarfs, well now if I buy a new one an older one has to go! My memory is quite good at recall as to what is in my wardrobe.

I have With regards accessories never worn male jewellery and still don't. Never liked mens scarfs except on very cold windy days but do wear "female" scarfs all the time except at home. Shoes I stick to male shoes and that has been covered recently on a thread on that topic. I have one style for going out, and a pair of mens open sandals for summer. An old pair of each for pottering around the house out side. I have never had an interest of multiple number of shoes, I only look at them twice, going on and off, unlike my skirts, tops etc I see throughout the day. I have one small rucksack style bag, Troop of London, about a foot wide and high.

I have a few skirts, tops and cardigans that are "old" for home, but the rest are for going out in whatever the circumstance. I do have a handful specifically for suitable DIY jobs, I do all our DIY except plaster, and another handful specifically for fell walking when I know the terrain and weather with be more suitable to skirt wearing. These are all old skirts being pushed down as new ones come in.

Going out in a finished style and appearance for me is any situation, tourist, seeing friends, National Trust Volunteer, socialising with the walking club, restaurants, concerts, theaters, Doctors, hospitals, dentists etc etc. All these events are the same for me and I will put on my outfit from my wardrobe of equal standing simply because I prefer skirts etc and I dress for me and my wife only not to impress or compete as what I have in the wardrobe I like and have no hesitation with. Recently I had to have major surgery for Bowel Cancer. It was caught early but needed preventative surgery which was not insisted upon by the NHS but offered and I do not need chemo or follow up medication. I reacted as soon as symptoms came, but due to me being extremely very fit, spot on weight, non smoker and very little alcohol most symptoms never came and the one that did was the main one to indicate a problem. Getting back to my point, throughout the whole process, meetings, scans, tests, even the day of the surgery I was always in my preferred attire as if I was going out for the day to satisfy me and my wife only. One exception, scans, I made sure nothing had metal on as that saves wearing the very indignant hospital gown as one walks around! As a side mark, I had no problems at all, just as I normally encounter, yes a small handful of the public found me amusing - a least I brightened up their day whilst tending to their hospital needs. Nurses and staff remarked on my extremely bright and positive outlook on life. I didn't tell them this, but this outlook on life has been greatly helped by me being me for me and my wife and not to try and impress or out do others.

As always each to their own and I respect others have differing preferences.
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Carl,

You're right, that was an incredibly trivial nit to pick: credibility vs. believability. Really?

As to finding dresses that fit, I've got a whole closet full that not only fit but look great. Only one of my numerous shirtdresses is made of denim. I'd say you need to look around more except any department store website shows plenty of shirtdresses in nearly every fabric and variation of the style. On yes, and most of them are long-sleeved.

As I said in my post, fit is a challenge and the shoulders are indeed the pinch point. Anyone who's looking for a dress or a women's jacket that will fit should start with the fit standard chart concentrating on the bust (chest) and waist dimensions and be ready to go a size up.

The next thing to know is that Juniors sizes are cut for women in their teens and early twenties. In other words, there's more shape to them and we have less shape. Plus sizes are cut for larger women, so a size 16 Misses is not going to be the same as a 16 Plus. You might have more luck with the sizes, but unfortunately the styles are much more limited. Sorry, life's a compromise.

Finally, when it comes to fit, the same type of dress or jacket in the same size by different design houses can fit differently just by the way they're each cut. Not to mention if one works off of the standard size chart and the other practices vanity sizing. I've even seen where the same manufacturer will use different sizing charts for different dresses.

My post was written for fellows who are trying to look good in dresses and skirts. I don't understand your interest in arguing against their making that choice. What does it matter to you?

Skirted Man,

My post was written for the benefit of those who are trying to look fashionable rather than simply unique. Clearly that's your choice and no one's denying that to you.

I have received lots of compliments on how well I dress from a number of good-looking, well-dressed women. One even asked me where I got my sense of style. How is one to know such a thing? At any rate, I've gotten my share of compliments in this Café and requests for advice so I thought I would share it. I don't think I insisted you take it. Did I?

At any rate if you don't care what people think about how you dress, why did you write such a long post apparently trying to dismiss mine?
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Pdxfashionpioneer wrote:You're right, that was an incredibly trivial nit to pick: credibility vs. believability. Really?
Yes. I'm not going to point up the verbiage, but if you're going to quote me, please at least show me the respect of getting it correct.

One will also note that I do not dismiss the notion of dresses on guys -- quite far from it. It's just that they've got pitfalls that can make it difficult for guys to buy them off-the-peg.
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Cr Going back to the Hillary Trump debates you know Dave and i don't exactly sit down for tea.together . But this time I have to add my 2 cents Stop picking on everything he posts.
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As an outsider who doesn't post much, it seems that almost every thread has someone quoting and correcting someone else. What's everyone trying to prove? Nobody cares that you have greater command over grammar than someone else or that you prefer a different brand of clothing than them. You just end up coming across as a curmudgeon.

In regards to the comfort people, we all get that you wear skirts for comfort. Good for you. Guess what there are also people who wear skirts for other reasons. There is no need to come into other threads and discredit their posts because they put too much emphasis on style or fashion.

Dave, thanks for the post as I do enjoy reading your posts on fashion. I appreciate the advice you provide based on your real-world experiences. I have several sheath type dresses that I've been experimenting with but haven't gotten the accessories right yet. My problem is they end up looking too tube like.

This post wasn't directed at anyone but just as a general reaction to what I've been reading in various threads the past couple of months.
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Alternatively, and IMHO, I think the discourse here has been for the most part quite civil.

Each of us, of course, has his own viewpoints and preferences, and discussing those differences is how we grow. The goal is personal enrichment, not conformity.
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With recent discourse veering into the confrontational, I think that there was a wee bit of oversensitivity above. Just my view, and probably understandable after some robust debate on other topics.

Here's my take on things. My perception, not yours in case we disagree!

Dave came up with his own personal analysis, cogently and passionately argued.

Carl broadly agreed but suggested a slight distinction which to me was quite insightful. He then built on Dave's comments on dresses.

Dave took umbrage at some of Carl's comments.

Skirted Man seemed to state that Dave's approach wasn't for him.

Ray scratched his head, puzzled.

There's much more that unites us than separates us.

Keep the comments coming! I may not share some of your sartorial choices but I'm really glad you are all doing your own thing.

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Pdxfashionpioneer. Points noted.

Actually I do take pride in my appearance, but unlike my rambling replies I am very decisive in selecting outfits without debate or discussion. I was simply making my observation on my experience on what I thought was a topical discussion. A forum to hear differing views and interpretations. Actually I thought this thread was started with that intention.

Perhaps I should have simply said I dress for myself not for others or to compete. My wife often says "you waffle. Keep it very short and to the briefest point". I am not good at expressing by writings.

I too have many a compliment on my appearance by third parties and those directly within my life. I do not try to be unique as you put it, I am simply, like men in skirts, the mirror image of modern women embracing freedom of choice and preference as an individual and I like many not caught up in fashion. How we look and by others is at the end of the day purely ones perception.

Please note my closing one sentence paragraph, I think you have ignored that. It is how I approach all my responses.
jc.33 wrote:it seems that almost every thread has someone quoting and correcting someone else. What's everyone trying to prove? Nobody cares that you have greater command over grammar than someone else or that you prefer a different brand of clothing than them. You just end up coming across as a curmudgeon.
I too note this on many occassion. I also note contributors on this forum are a collective few and I sometimes wonder if it is the intimidating attitude that appears on this forum at times. Many occasions I walk away from this forum coming on by not login on with the quoting, correcting and often not accepting that there are other interpretations apart from their own. I have not forgotten the direct rebuke I got from two UK members over Brexit because they couldn't accept anothers view. I gave a direct rebuke back and thankfully a fellow UK member added on my behalf of general acceptance, tolerance and respect. I have had direct contact from several and not via this site querying the link from my site to this based upon their negative experience here.

I never write intentionally dismissing but simply stating how I look at things. We are all different in many aspects and i respect that in real life even if misinterpreted on forums.

Personally this forum perhaps should be more active as a collective group promoting men in skirts as groups in real life and in respective countries rather than ramblings on line.

I think I shall be more selective in future and certainly brief!
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Dave

Your post is a good one as this is something I’ve argued with myself over time and time again. I’m a big guy at 6 foot and 270 pounds. Your question; "Do I think I look ridiculous or unattractive in this outfit?”, hits very close to home.

Then your comment: “Any outfit from either department (men's or women's) should flatter you; make you look better than you would be otherwise. If it doesn’t flatter than no matter how beautiful a garment you have selected, it doesn’t fit YOUR style.” I struggle with this as well.

I’m sure that lots of people who have seen me think I look ridiculous and unattractive. And as far as; “believability” is concerned, I fail that probably as well. But I keep going with the “I don’t care” mode and wear what I want to wear.

Yes there are big women’s clothing that can look nice, but I mainly buy from second hand shops and cheap items on eBay or very good sales online and the choices are limited. My wife thinks I spend way too much on this already.

Anyone what to chime in? I would be interested in hearing from others on this forum, (maybe even those that don’t post often or at all) about this.

I love this forum as it has given me the courage to go as far as I have.
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One of the responders on this thread opined that I probably got over sensitive. I'll own to that. I'm tired of the caviling I get in response to my attempts to be helpful.

Perhaps I should PM the person in question.

Gordon, thank you for the support. I would also like to say that as best as I can tell from your avatar picture, your shirtdress looks fine and you look good in it. May I suggest that you post some pictures in the Pics and Looks section and ask for input.
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Please note - grammar, spelling and punctuation are important when
writing your thoughts. MANY posts that I've read made me cringe due
to the lack of punctuation. I've had to re-read them 2 or 3 times to
finally understand what the writer was intending to say.

Changing a word in a sentence will change the intended meaning.
An example would be - incredible versus credibility.

Something that is incredible, to me, says that 'the thing' is unbelievable,
or so surprising that the reader is astonished at the thought of 'the thing'.

Credibility is believable, truthful, correct and honest.
"He is an honest witness. His credibility is undeniable".

Some members post with run-on sentences. This becomes difficult to
read and fully comprehend. More along the lines of 'rambling, random
thoughts'. Some members take "Fashion Freedom" to the extreme and
denigrate others who don't do the same. Not every member here has
the option of, or the attitude for, going to the same extreme lengths.

I've been an avid reader most of my life. The placement of punctuation
in a sentence, is critical to the meaning of the sentence, and the paragraph.

If you're quoting someone, use the quotation marks ( " ) at both ends of
the sentence. Or copy the sentence, use the formatting [ quote = "name" ](no spaces)
then [ /quote ](no spaces) and paste the copied section between the ] [ such as
{quote="Uncle Al"} Example of quoting.{/quote} which will yield - -
Uncle Al wrote: Example of quoting.
Miss-quoting a member lowers your credibility :!:

I've noted several 'missing' members. They were major contributors at Skirt Cafe'.
After some 'put-downs' by newer members, these older members have left the Cafe'.
I'm sorry to see this happening but departures are still taking place.

PLEASE remember that civility is mandatory at Skirt Cafe'.
If the lack of civility continues, I fear that, warnings will be issued to
the offending member/s. As a Moderator, I don't like to issue warnings.
I will issue them when the demeanor of the posts deteriorate below the
gutter level and lead down to the sewer. This is not a threat but a promise :!:

I've tried to cover several areas with this post so consider this a friendly warning.
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Hi Uncle Al,

For some years I lived in Germany and had to use their language all the time. They tend often to join words together to make longer ones, which at first sight is daunting, but when one dissects it into manageable bits all becomes clear.

IIhopeyoufindthispostinterestinganddon'tmindmepullingyourlegabit ! :eye:

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Uncle Al wrote:Some members post with run-on sentences. This becomes difficult to
read and fully comprehend. More along the lines of 'rambling, random
thoughts'.
But you don't mind sentence fragments, I see. :D
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