Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

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Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby AMM » Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:19 pm

[Editor's Note: This FAQ has been moved over to our Wiki at:
http://www.skirtcafe.org/wiki/index.php ... rtCafe_FAQ
It will soon "go live" in the sense of being prominently linked from the main SkirtCafe forum. If you wish to edit it, please send a private message to crfriend.]


I've long felt that there was a need for an FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) list, so I decided to spend some of my spare time putting one together. No doubt, I've left some important questions off the list, and the answers have been the ones that satisfy me and not necessarily anyone else, so people may disagree with them. So, put on your boxing gloves, "Ladies and Bruces," here goes Round 1!

SkirtCafe Frequently Asked Questions -- Round 1.

A. General

A.1. What is SkirtCafe about?

SkirtCafe is a discussion group for men who like to wear kilts and/or skirts and for those (both men and women) who think that men's clothing options should include skirts, kilts, sarongs, and other "unbifurcated" garments.

A.2. What do you mean, "unbifurcated" garments?

By "unbifurcated", we mean clothes that don't have cloth between the legs.

Included are kilts, skirts, robes, sarongs, dashikis, and a host of other garments worn at various times and in various cultures.

A.3. What is a MUG?

MUG is an acronym for "men's unbifurcated garment."

A.4. I understand men wearing kilts, but how are men who wear skirts different from crossdressers? From transsexuals?

(Male-to-female) Crossdressers are men who want to feel like and look like women, and may or may not wear skirts and dresses for this purpose. Note that there are a fair number of crossdressers who do not wear skirts or dresses.

"Men in skirts" like to wear skirts, but do not want to give up being men or being seen as men, and don't see why they should have to choose between the two.

(Male-to-female) Transsexuals go even further than crossdressers: They want to feel like and look like women 24/7, and are often willing to undergo surgical modification of their bodies to look even more like women. Note that they are no more likely than non-trans women to wear skirts or dresses.

(This is not to ignore female-to-male crossdressers and transsexuals, but they don't seem to come up in discussions of men in skirts.)

A.5. Are crossdressers and transsexuals welcome at SkirtCafe?

SkirtCafe does not disapprove of crossdressing and transsexuality, but we think that someone who wants to talk about crossdressing or transsexuality will find that they will be much better off going to one of the many sites that deal with those topics.

For one thing, the issues that skirt- and kilt-wearing men face are quite different from what those two groups deal with.

For another, there is a concern that if SkirtCafe were to open itself up to discussions primarily of interest to crossdressers, the large number of crossdressers would soon drown out the kilt-wearing and skirt-wearing men.

That said, a cross-dresser or transsexual would be welcome to participate if he/she wanted to talk about topics relevant to men wearing skirts.

Please note that SkirtCafe has a policy of "gender honesty:" people are asked not to use names and pronouns in their postings on SkirtCafe that imply they are a different gender than what they are in real life.

(This mainly refers to the practice -- common on cross-dressing fora -- of male-to-female cross-dressers going by women's names and using feminine pronouns for themselves and other crossdressers.)

A.6. Are men who want to wear kilts but not skirts welcome at SkirtCafe?

They most definitely are. There are men at SkirtCafe that do not wear skirts at all (unless you consider a kilt a kind of skirt.)

Some only wear traditional-style tartan kilts. Others also wear so-called non-traditional kilts, such as Utilikilts

There are also a large number of men who wear garments that could be considered either kilts or skirts, depending on your point of view. That is, they retain some of the elements of kilts, but may leave out others (for example, a denim "kilt" without pleats), and overall seek to retain the masculine appearance associated with a kilt.

The main thing that we ask of all participants at SkirtCafe is that they respect other people's clothing choices. Those who do not wish to wear MUGs that aren't kilts should respect those who do, and vice versa.

A.7. Are women welcome at SkirtCafe?

Women are most definitely welcome to participate, and there have generally always been a few women who post regularly. They are, unfortunately, a minority, and sometimes need sharp elbows to be heard over the "boy talk."

B. Kilts

B.1. How does SkirtCafe differ from Kilt-specific sites such as "X Marks The Scot" or kiltmen.com?

Those sites cater to men who do not wish to consider non-kilted unbifurcated garments, and you may be happy with them if you are only interested in kilts.

SkirtCafe offers a place to discuss a wardrobe that includes not only kilts, but also sarongs, robes, and skirts.

B.2. Do I have to be Scottish to wear a kilt?

Absolutely not. After all, do you have to be Croatian to wear a necktie? (FYI, "Cravat" comes from the Croatian word for "Croatian.")

B.3. Do I have to be a member of a clan to wear the clan's tartan.

Do you have to be a Harvard student to wear a Harvard sweatshirt? Or a Yankees ballplayer to wear a Yankees cap?

Also, there are quite a few non-clan tartans: some U. S. states have their own tartans, and there are a fair number of generic tartans.

Also keep in mind that non-tartan kilts, such as tweed, are just as "traditional."

If someone is giving you a hard time, claiming you don't have the right to wear a particular tartan, you could point out that the whole idea is an anachronism. Back in the days of Highland clans, people wore whatever tartan they liked. The idea of "clan tartans" didn't start until the 19th century, long after the Highland clan system had been destroyed.

B.4. Why do men want to wear kilts?

Every kilt-wearing man has a different list, but here are some (some have been shamelessly plagiarized from the "Reasons to Wear a Utilikilt" page at Utilikilts.com):

  • Comfort:
    • No thick wad of cloth between the legs, rubbing at sensitive parts of the male anatomy.
    • Ventilation of same.
    • Ease of movement (no trouser legs getting in the way.)
  • Looks:
    • They show off the wearer's masculine legs.
    • Elegant non-conformist appearance.
  • Fun:
    • The associations with roguish masculinity: highland warriors, Rob Roy, Braveheart, etc.
    • Ye can't swirl the pleats on a pair of Dockers, can ye?
    • One word from the ladies: "access"

B.5. What are these "non-traditional" kilts about?

Non-traditional kilts are about making kilts a kind of clothing that any man can wear any time, anywhere.

Some are much like the traditional kilt, but a lot cheaper.

The "traditional" Scottish kilt that kiltmakers try to sell you is hand-made out of 8 yards of heavy, expensive wool, costing something like $500, not counting all the other gear you are expected to buy, such as socks, sporran, jacket, knives, and maybe a claymore.

There are kilts that, to the casual eye, look the same, but cost one-tenth of the price. They aim to appeal to men who can't afford hand-made kilts, or who aren't sure they will like wearing a kilt enough to pay full price.

Others, such as Utilikilts, aim to compete with jeans and basketball shorts as casual wear. They are made out of the same fabrics as casual trousers: cotton twill or denim, sometimes nylon. They typically have pockets and are in plain "masculine" colors or camoflage prints. They are intended to be thrown in the washing machine, not sent to the dry cleaners, and usually have sewn-in pleats.

B.6. What do you all wear under your kilts?

There are a million humorous answers to this one, google "what's worn under the kilt" for as many as you like.

The serious answer is: whatever the kilt wearer wants to wear. "Nothing" is a possibility, but there are others. It depends upon the man, the occasion, the kilt, his health, etc. If you want to know what a particular man is wearing at a particular time, you have to ask.

However, most men would consider it an intrusive question unless they know you pretty well. Think about it: how would you feel if somebody you didn't know well (or maybe at all) asked you what you were wearing under your trousers?

B.7. I'd like to try wearing a kilt -- where can I get one?

If you want to buy one new, there are a number of on-line suppliers. <insert list of suppliers> A few warnings:

  1. Off-the-rack kilts have the same sizing issues as any other kind of clothing. If you order on-line, be sure you can return the kilt if it doesn't fit to your satisfaction.
  2. If you want to order a traditional, hand-made kilt, you have to get measured by someone who knows what she/he is doing. This means visiting the kiltmaker in person. Most reputable kilt-makers don't sell kilts on-line for that reason.
  3. Unless you're sure you're going to like wearing a kilt, you may want to buy a cheap one. Stillwater Kilts, in particular, has a traditional-style kilt for around $30 which should satisfy all but the most particular kilt-wearer.

You can also buy a used kilt. Kiltmakers often have a few in stock, and there are usually some for sale on E-Bay. Be sure you can try it on and return it if it doesn't fit.

If you're pretty good with a sewing machine, you can try making your own kilt. There are books with instructions, and FolkWear has a pattern (which I've never tried.) Be warned that it's a lot of work.

C. Skirts

C.1. Why do you guys like to wear skirts, anyway?

There are at least as many answers as skirt-wearing men. Many of the reasons for wearing kilts apply here, also. I've lumped them together into a couple of categories:
  1. Comfort (same as kilts)
  2. Wanting to wear something "different" (Or: boredom with the usual men's fashions.)
  3. Fun.
  4. Liking the "look and feel."
Note that kilts are simply a particular type of skirt.

Compared to both trousers and kilts:
  • skirts are usually made of lighter fabrics, so they aren't as heavy and are a lot cooler.
  • Skirts, especially full skirts, move separately from your body, as if they had a mind of their own, and a lot of us find that enjoyable.
  • Skirts come in a wide variety of styles and lengths.

C.2. What kind of skirts are suitable/appropriate for men?

Pretty much any kind of skirt that fits you and that you feel comfortable in is appropriate. Usually, the main limitation is what you feel you can wear out and about without feeling embarrassed.

Men who are concerned about presenting a masculine appearance tend to go for denim skirts, especially in over-the-knee lengths.

However, this varies a lot. Among Contra-Dancers, for instance, men tend to favor many of the same styles of skirts that the women wear, especially brightly-colored or print skirts, in lightweight, gauzy fabrics, in all sorts of lengths. In counterculture circles, you'll see ankle-length tie-died skirts.

C.3. Where can I get skirts for men?

One place to look is women's clothing shops and departments. In summer, in particular, you'll see skirts. The biggest problem is that they may not fit you. Even if you can get them on, they may not be designed for your shape (women often have the same problem.)

Thrift (a.k.a. charity) shops are another place to try. The nice thing is that their skirts are usually pretty cheap, so if you decide it doesn't look as good on you as on the rack, you're not out a lot of money.

There are a few suppliers of skirts for men. SkirtCafe has some links to some companies that do this.

C.4. What do you wear under your skirt?

This is really the same as "what do you wear under your kilt?" See that section for answers to this FAQ.

D. Accessories for skirts and kilts

D.1. What legwear is appropriate for kilts? For skirts?

The traditional legwear with kilts is knee socks, often with garters with a bit of brightly-colored cloth ("flashes") hanging down.

This also works with skirts, too, especially knee-length skirts.

However, you can also go bare-legged, with either short socks or no socks at all; this choice is popular where summers are hot!

Yet another possibility, popular with some men, is tights, either colored or sheer (sheer tights are called "pantyhose" in the US.)
If it's cold and this isn't warm enough, you can wear knee socks over tights.

D.2. Underwear

First, note that discussion of underwear is against SkirtCafe policy. If you want to discuss your taste in undergarments, you will need to find another forum.

That said, men wear a wide variety of things under their skirt/kilt/etc., anything from shorts or trousers to nothing at all.

However, keep in mind, if you wear a skirt, kilt, sarong, or other "men's unbifurcated garment" (MUG), that the chances are much greater than with trousers that some mishap will occur which will show everyone around just what you are -- or aren't -- wearing under your MUG. I would suggest that whatever you wear (or don't wear), it should be something where, if such a mishap occurs, you won't feel so embarrassed that you can never go out in polite society again.

Also keep in mind that there are quite a few people out there who are kind of obsessed with what men have (or don't have) on under their kilts, as indicated by the large number of websites dedicated to photos of men in kilts who are inadvertently showing more than they intended to.

D.3. What is "going commando"?

This refers to wearing a kilt (sometimes a skirt) with nothing on underneath. The term comes from the rule in the British Army that soldiers wearing kilts should not wear underwear.

Note that this is only a rule in the British Army. If you're not in the British Army, the choice whether you wear something or nothing underneath is a matter of what you -- and the people around you -- are comfortable with.

E. Social Issues -- For Skirt-Wearing Men

E.1. Will people look at me if I go out in public in a skirt?

Yes. People do look. Even if they don't say anything, most people will be quite aware that you're wearing a skirt.

If your goal in life is to be invisible, don't wear a skirt (This probably applies to women, too.)

There's a saying: it takes real balls to wear a skirt!

E.2. Will people give me a hard time if I go out in public in a skirt?

Seldom. For the most part, nobody will say anything at all.

People who don't know you, or only know you in a professional way (such as grocery store clerks) will usually not say anything at all.

In most cases, it's because they don't really care. As long as you're not a problem, and are civil to them, what's it to them?

Another reason is that they probably don't know what to say, and they've got enough to worry about without getting involved in your psychological motivations for doing something that doesn't affect them.

Even people who know you well may not say anything -- it will depend upon whether they feel they can talk about potentially awkward subjects with you.

Close family members (parents, spouse, children, etc.) are a different story, as they may feel that they will suffer from your non-conformity.

If you're married, or have a similarly close relationship with someone, it's a good idea to make sure they won't get upset before you go out where all her friends can see you.

E.3. What do I say if someone asks why I'm wearing a skirt?

The thing to keep in mind when anyone asks you is that there are two main reasons people will ask you this question:

  1. They are worried how your skirt-wearing will affect them
    People close to you will worry how it will affect your relationship with them and how other people will see them.
    People who aren't close to you will worry that your skirt-wearing is a sign that you're going to act weird in other ways.
  2. Simple curiosity.

You want your answer to be non-confrontational and to give the person you are talking to the impression that you are basically a normal guy with an isolated eccentricity. Sort of like bird-watching.

If you're dealing with strangers or acquantances, or even many friends, a simple answer that is appropriate to your relationship is best. They don't want to know all the details, anyway. Something like, "it's more comfortable" or "I felt like looking different" is usually enough. Depending on the skirt, you may be able to pretend that it's equivalent to a kilt.

If it's your SO or close family member, you may need to go into some detail and talk more about your motivations.

There's also a third reason why people will ask: they feel threatened. This is practically the only reason why someone will make negative remarks about your skirt.

This doesn't happen as often as you might fear, but it's good to be prepared.

First, make sure they are being negative. Sometimes, what we think is hostility is just awkwardness. After all most people have no idea what to say to a man in a skirt.

If they act overtly hostile, you should try to avoid them. Even more so if you think they might get violent. This has nothing to do with skirt-wearing and everything to do with common sense.

If they're just being insulting, the best response is to not let it bother you. After all, it's his (or her) that has the psychological problem, not you. Imagine if someone were taunting you with compliments: "hey, Mr. big muscles! Yoh, you there with the washboard abs!"

F. Questions that never go anywhere

These are questions that never seem to go anywhere, evidently because no one is happy with the answers, such as they are.

F.1. Why do women... / why don't women ... ?

Questions that start this way are always time-wasters and the threads they start often end up getting locked, for two reasons:
  1. Nearly all of the participants at SkirtCafe are male. Why would they know more than you about why non-male people do what they do? So the discussion turns into a political argument, generating lots of heat and little light.
    If you really want answers, try a site where the majority of participants are women, especially those dedicated to women's fashion or to women's issues (which usually means feminism.)
  2. Usually, those who post such questions and/or those who respond aren't really interested in the answer. They just want to complain that "Women" aren't doing what they would like them to do. This is not what SkirtCafe is for.
Actually, discussions about women are pretty much all off-topic for SkirtCafe, except for women's fashion, and even then, only as it relates to men's MUG-wearing.

Note that there are two fora at SkirtCafe for discussions that don't relate to men wearing skirts/kilts/etc.: "Off Topic" and "Personal Stories."

F.2. Why aren't men allowed to wear skirts (or other MUGs)?

In the countries most of us live in, they are. There are few places where a man will get arrested for wearing a skirt. Most of us have gone on buses, airplanes, to Wal-Mart, to movies, etc., wearing skirts and nothing has happened to us.

Most of the time, it is only our own fears that prevent us from going out and about in a skirt or kilt.

The main exceptions are:
  1. Workplaces. Most employers have policies as to what is "acceptable" clothing, which does not include kilts for men, let alone skirts or sarongs.
  2. Places which have dress codes, such as fancy restaurants or events such as formal dinners. If they expect you to wear a jacket and tie, or something even more formal, they are likely to not let you in wearing a skirt or sarong. (Kilts will often be acceptable, though.)
  3. Law courts and the like. Judges generally have wide lattitude in deciding what sort of clothing counts as acceptable in their courtroom. If you're unlucky and the judge assumes that you are Showing Contempt For The Law just because you are wearing a skirt into a courtroom, you may not have much choice but to dress as he/she requires while you are in his/her courtroom.

F.3. Why don't more men wear kilts/skirts?

This is a problematic question, especially at SkirtCafe.
  1. If we want other people (esp. other men) to allow us the choice of skirts or kilts, we really need to give other men (and women) the freedom to wear trousers if they want to. This includes not complaining when they choose not to wear skirts, etc.
  2. If you want to know why men who don't wear skirts or kilts don't, a web site intended for men who do is not a good place to ask.

F.4. How can we promote kilts and/or skirts as an acceptable alternative to trousers (and shorts)?

This is essentially the question of how one can change popular tastes. If we could figure out how to do that, most of the fashion industry would be willing to give us a lot of money to tell them the secret....
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby crfriend » Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:16 pm

Nice first cut there, AMM! Well done indeed.

We may have to make this the first promotion to the Wiki!
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby HockeySkirt » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:22 pm

B.1. How does SkirtCafe differ from Kilt-specific sites such as "X Marks The Scot" or kiltmen.com?
Those sites cater to men who do not wish to consider non-kilted unbifurcated garments, and you may be happy with them if you are only interested in kilts.

This is not entirely accurate. Kiltmen.com is about "Men in Kilts, Men's Skirts, Sarongs and Other Kilt-like Clothing" (first line of the site). I believe this is more to discourage, say, discussion of men wearing womens' pink floral skirts, with petticoats, heels and pantyhose, rather than enforcing a kilt-only rule.

The remark about "X Marks The Scot" is more accurate, though expressed in an unnecessarily negative way -- they just want to focus on their interest, and should not be criticised, however subtly or unintentionally, for not having the same interest as us. It would probably be less negative to simply say that "X Marks The Scot is focussed on kilt wearing".
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby crfriend » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:52 pm

HockeySkirt wrote:Kiltmen.com is about "Men in Kilts, Men's Skirts, Sarongs and Other Kilt-like Clothing" (first line of the site). I believe this is more to discourage, say, discussion of men wearing womens' pink floral skirts, with petticoats, heels and pantyhose, rather than enforcing a kilt-only rule.

The remark about "X Marks The Scot" is more accurate, though expressed in an unnecessarily negative way -- they just want to focus on their interest, and should not be criticised [...]

A possible re-wording to remove any implied criticism of other sites:

SkirtCafe attempts to cast a broad net in its philosophy regarding non-birfucated garments; other sites may not, and this is their prerogative. Given the tighter focus of some of these other sites, they may be a "better fit" for many folks but at the expense of a broad viewpoint.

This gets around the potentially uncomfortable notion of "naming names" yet still sets SkirtCafe apart as a (hopefully) unifying entity.
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby Uncle Al » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:12 pm

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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby AMM » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:45 pm

crfriend wrote:A possible re-wording to remove any implied criticism of other sites:

SkirtCafe attempts to cast a broad net in its philosophy regarding non-birfucated garments; other sites may not, and this is their prerogative. Given the tighter focus of some of these other sites, they may be a "better fit" for many folks but at the expense of a broad viewpoint.

This gets around the potentially uncomfortable notion of "naming names" yet still sets SkirtCafe apart as a (hopefully) unifying entity.

I agree that criticism of other sites is inappropriate, and that certainly applies to kilt-focussed sites. I also don't think this question is something the FAQ should dwell upon.

However, one big difference between SkirtCafe and some of those sites is that discussion of skirts, tights, heels, etc., for men, is an acceptable topic of discussion here, and it is not at many (most?) of the kilt sites.[*] If you want to talk about possibly wearing a skirt, etc., those sites are not good places to do it (some expressly forbid it.) By the same token, if you don't want to read about men wearing skirts, etc., then SkirtCafe is not for you.

This is a distinction that goes to the heart of what SkirtCafe is, and I think it needs to be expressed somehow.

I'm not happy with crfriend's wording because I think it's long and yet doesn't come to the point; it sounds as if we were tiptoeing around something. I don't think SkirtCafe's focus is a criticism of those sites I named, nor the other way around. We're just different. There ought to be a simple and straightforward way of expressing this, without going into unnecessary detail.




[*] Actually, I'm not aware of a kilt-focussed site which also has non-kilt MUG discussions as well.
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby crfriend » Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:03 pm

AMM wrote:I'm not happy with crfriend's wording because I think it's long and yet doesn't come to the point; it sounds as if we were tiptoeing around something.

Thank you for the criticism. I'll attempt to craft something better. This is how good works get done -- especially ones that need to be diplomatic in nature.

AMM wrote:I don't think SkirtCafe's focus is a criticism of those sites I named, nor the other way around. We're just different. There ought to be a simple and straightforward way of expressing this, without going into unnecessary detail.

Absolutely. Yes, SkirtCafe is different, and I believe this to be a potent force. What I'd personally like to stay away from is even being perceived as denigrating other sites because they have a different focus than us.

="AMM"][*] Actually, I'm not aware of a kilt-focussed site which also has non-kilt MUG discussions as well.

This is telling in and of itself, but doesn't require harping on in a FAQ that we write. I would rather err on the side of graciousness to the sites we share space with.
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby AMM » Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:24 pm

How about the following:
B.1. How does SkirtCafe differ from Kilt-specific sites such as "X Marks The Scot" or kiltmen.com?

Those sites specifically focus on kilts (for men) and kilt-related topics.

SkirtCafe discusses kilts, too, but also discusses skirts, sarongs, tights, etc., as clothing options for men.


I'm also going to suggest an addition to A.1:

A.1. What is SkirtCafe about?

SkirtCafe is a discussion group for men who like to wear kilts and/or skirts and for those (both men and women) who think that men's clothing options should include skirts, kilts, sarongs, and other "unbifurcated" garments, as well as clothing items that are usually thought of as being only worn by women, such as pantyhose and high heels.
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby crfriend » Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:45 pm

AMM wrote:
B.1. How does SkirtCafe differ from Kilt-specific sites such as "X Marks The Scot" or kiltmen.com?

I would like to see us refraining from specifically mentioning other sites lest it be taken wrongly. I fully understand the need for differentiating SkirtCafe from other sites, but believe that "naming names" would be, in the long term, harmful.

[...], as well as clothing items that are usually thought of as being only worn by women, such as pantyhose and high heels.

From a personal perspective, I'd like to see a specific removal of the "loaded" terms "pantyhose" and "high heels" and, instead more neutral terms like "legwear" and "heeled footwear" substituted. The sad fact is that both of those garments have some serious "issues" connected with them in the fetish arena, and that connection will not help in getting such garments accepted in a wide setting.

To dispute the fetish notion, I think it would also be appropriate to mention that both tights and heeled shoes were commonly worn by men in centuries past. With a modicum of luck, that might blunt some of the fetish crowd (yeah, right).
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby Grok » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:05 am

To describe the degree of inclusiveness, I think the term "big tent" would be useful.
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby Grok » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:34 am

Perhaps a vaguer word such as "accessories" could be used instead of "'loaded' terms."
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby Bob » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:27 pm

This is great stuff. Thank you AMM for taking the lead, and thank you everyone else for suggestions. Very productive discussion.

But before we go any further, I think we need to get this up on the SkirtCafe Wiki:
http://skirtcafe.org/wiki
Once it's there, I can link it prominently from the front page.

We also need to get Wiki accounts for those who wish to edit it. Anyone who wants an account should send a PM to crfriend. We haven't tried yet on how to build collaborative documents. We will certainly have disagreements, and will have to find ways to work them out together. I don't know what we'll come up with yet for process, but principles of respect always apply.

Coincidentally, I've been working on an article on crossdressing --- or more correctly, an article that deconstructs crossdressing and puts it in the larger context of human experience. It's a little more "research-based," meaning I read a bunch of primary sources on crossdressing and analyzed what the practice seems to be about from that information. I don't know if the article is appropriate for this site or not --- mostly because an official endorsement of it could ruin our official neutrality toward crossdressing (the article actually paints a pretty dim view of the practice). In any case, I'm interested in getting it up on the Wiki at least temporarily and seeing what people think.
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby AMM » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:22 am

1. I notice that the sections have numbers in the table of contents, but not in the body of the FAQ. Is this configurable?

2. I found another bit of text that needs correcting. In section B.5. What are these "non-traditional" kilts about, the original has:
Old wrote:The "traditional" Scottish kilt that kiltmakers try to sell you...
I have since edited it to read:
New wrote:The "traditional" Scottish kilt that kiltmakers usually sell...


3. I notice that the parts people have questioned are all at the beginning -- has anyone actually read past section B?
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Re: Proposal for an FAQ -- Round 1

Postby crfriend » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:56 am

AMM wrote:1. I notice that the sections have numbers in the table of contents, but not in the body of the FAQ. Is this configurable?

It may be. I'll need to dig at the documentation to see if it is.

AMM wrote:The "traditional" Scottish kilt that kiltmakers usually sell...

That reads vastly better.

AMM wrote:3. I notice that the parts people have questioned are all at the beginning -- has anyone actually read past section B?

The latter sections are already remarkably cohesive and well put together. Personally, I'd have left off the bits about "commando", but since it's an unavoidable question, I suppose it has to stay.
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